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Old 07-21-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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It doesn't alter the average in any way though.
Not the average, but the record low. Our record maximum low is 71F (22C) and when we get record-braking temperatures, it usually cools down the very next day which sometimes alters the maximum low. For example, it is still very warm in the morning, but then it becomes cooler at noon and the temperature in the afternoon is cooler than the temperature at 6 am, so the recorded low for that day becomes lower.

 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:31 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Not the average, but the record low. Our record maximum low is 71F (22C) and when we get record-braking temperatures, it usually cools down the very next day which sometimes alters the maximum low.
The low would remain the same, it just might not be recorded in the same 24h period as the actual day.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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It is 22C at 6 am on July 21, then the day is cool and it is 17C just before midnight (or 1 am) on the same day. The low for that day will be 17C, not 22.

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Old 07-21-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Sydney
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OK, put it this way, because I've seen this happen before here, if it was 10C at 9am one day and then it was 20C at 8am the next day and then the following 9am was 10C, you'd miss that 20C record completely.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:47 AM
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OK, put it this way, because I've seen this happen before here, if it was 10C at 9am one day and then it was 20C at 8am the next day and then the following 9am was 10C, you'd miss that 20C record completely.
But the 20c is never the lowest temp in the 24 hr period, so it shouldn't count.

The other night it pretty much stayed around 23-24c all night, but the low was recorded well after sunrise the next day, and the night before didn't go below 21.4c (yet the low for that 24h period was 17.8c from the previous morning.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Sydney
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But the 20c is never the lowest temp in the 24 hr period, so it shouldn't count.

The other night it pretty much stayed around 23-24c all night, but the low was recorded well after sunrise the next day, and the night before didn't go below 21.4c (yet the low for that 24h period was 17.8c from the previous morning.
But the temperature would be above 20C for well over 24 hours, just not in the 9am-9am period. So you could feel cheated out of a record, so to speak. Although I don't think it really matters that much, consistency is the main thing.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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I think it makes far more sense to measure the temperature from 9am-9am, rather than from 00:00-23:59. Night time occurs over 2 separate days, so to accurately get what minimum temperature was recorded at night you need to allow for the entire night period. The Met Office in the UK does it exactly this way, as does the Malta Met Office & most others around the world. The US just has to be different, like measuring temperatures in fahrenheit still...
 
Old 07-21-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I don't like 9am-9am. My personal records are always 12am-12am. I think 9am-9am was used at least partly because the hours are more 'sociable', instead of getting people to check it at midnight.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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I think it makes far more sense to measure the temperature from 9am-9am, rather than from 00:00-23:59. Night time occurs over 2 separate days, so to accurately get what minimum temperature was recorded at night you need to allow for the entire night period. The Met Office in the UK does it exactly this way, as does the Malta Met Office & most others around the world. The US just has to be different, like measuring temperatures in fahrenheit still...
Don't forget it's the English who used Fahrenheit and the stupid imperial system (and still use miles, yards, feet and inches) aka the English system. The US is just more stubborn than everyone else.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Don't forget it's the English who used Fahrenheit and the stupid imperial system (and still use miles, yards, feet and inches) aka the English system. The US is just more stubborn than everyone else.
Yes but they, along with the rest of the world, moved into the modern ages & started using celcius

The UK uses miles & Km, feet, inches, cm & mm & Kg, but we can use lbs as well, I guess we are just more clever
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