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Oh yeah, sorry I guess I didn't look hard enough at it.
And 29 C as an average high for Melbourne is impressive. I guess the deviations in Melbourne are just as high in summer as winter, which is certainly not true in North America.
That's okay.
What's more impressive is that it happened in March - I mean, that's not even a summer month!
I would say that the deviations are still much more higher in summer in Melb - One day 43C and the next 19C is just crazy. You wouldn't see such a fluctuation in the winter there (for instance, 23C one day and -2C the next - and isn't that more of a notable occurrence in the eastern portion of the US in winter? ).
Eleven can happen of course but it's still really rare. The last July there was 12.8 ( the same as the 1890s average for July from memory) and that was an unusually cold month for recent years.
Except, two months did indeed average at 11.2C and 11.4C (look at it again).
Okay, I didn't know your point. All I said was that Melbourne can certainly average at that figure. And I'm aware that, in its coldest, Atlanta can go down to 7C.
Incidentally, Melbourne has even averaged at 29C in the summer.
One thing to mention, Australia doesn't have deciduous trees (naturally). We grow evergreen trees (eucalyptus, for one), and they make the environment seem "green" all year round.
And that is because your entire continent never gets arctic air.
It would depend on the day. Atlanta has plenty of 20C+ days with mild nights. A bit of strength in the sun as well.
No -8C/2C days in Melbourne though and not to mention that much of Melbourne has the look of a wetter LA..
I''m going with Melbourne.
Not really. Not sure what is meant by "plenty", but over the last 30 years Atlanta averages only 12 days in the three coldest months a high temp of 20C. That is around 13% of winter days. A little more than one day every ten days.
If you lower the threshold to 15.5C, it rises to 33 days. That is what I call "plenty". I'll bet Melbourne has more 15.5C days than Atlanta.
And the low temps are much colder in Atlanta.
To get the same winter subtropical feel in the Southeast US as Melbourne, I think you have to go much further south into Florida. Melbourne is frost free, and you have to go down into central FL for that. Melbourne is even more subtropical in winter than Houston, New Orleans, Jacksonville, etc. Orlando and Melbourne would be similar in terms of how cold it can get in winter. But even Orlando gets low temps every ten years or so that are much colder than Melbourne. Melbourne in winter looks more green than Houston, NOLA, Jacksonville, etc.
Australia is always going to win the "more tropical or subtropical" contests imo because there just is never any air that comes from Antarctica and gives them true polar cold. It just never happens. Their cold seems to come from clear dry nights in winter with long nights. That kind of cold hits the deep southern US every November lol and even many years in October.
Melbourne easily. You can grow a lot more in Melbourne than Atlanta.
Not just that, you can grow far more in Melbourne than 99.9% of the southeast US. Maybe only Orlando on south can match and at the very southern tip of FL exceed Melbourne in tropical plants.
This is how Melbourne winters look like for the 1981-2010 period
An avg low of 7C in the coldest month is impressive and can't be matched by anywhere in Georgia and most and very large chunk of Florida.
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