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Originally Posted by rodentraiser
If you look at the deserts across a globe, notice that most of them run along a line around the world. If we shifted the US 20° south, that would put a desert right about through the Seattle to New York line.
Shifting the US south would also give us a lot more land to grow crops on, but we'd have to take over Canada to get the northern land.
It's been historically proven that a population in colder climates tends to be much more advanced in technology, so if we turn into a sub-tropical climate, we might end up being the worse off for it.
Your last point only applies in the age before Air Conditioning and other modern technology, Singapore is a case in point of an advanced society in the lowland tropics
As much as I like the tropics, I think 10 degrees south would be better as a lot of the US would turn into desert and become like North Africa or Australia and that wouldn't be good for most people.
Even at 10 degrees latitude lower NYC would have a climate like Hong Kong and that's not exactly a good thing. Maybe if the Hudson Bay wouldn't be frozen over, then it would have more of a moderating influence and hopefully would make the northeast a bit nicer
As much as I like the tropics, I think 10 degrees south would be better.
I would be willing to bet that even 10 degree further south you would still get stupidly cold arctic blasts this time going even further south with all that land right to the Arctic.
The problem is not the current latitude, as just about every single place on the planet at the latitude of the South is warmer in winter and doesn't get those very anomalous cold winter blasts. The problem is the lack of a northern ocean or high mountains blocking or modifying the cold air.
A better solution would have been the US buying Baja California to give us a fantastic long coastline far more dramatic and beautiful than the current warm and boring one (East Coast), or the cold and dramatic one (West Coast). Baja CA wraps it all up in a nice package.
If Mexico ever got its act together it would be a fantastic place to retire to for winter. Who knows, maybe someday the US and Mexico will be in a kind of European Union arrangement with each other and Canada and then we can all enjoy the kind of climates we like.
I would be willing to bet that even 10 degree further south you would still get stupidly cold arctic blasts this time going even further south with all that land right to the Arctic.
The problem is not the current latitude, as just about every single place on the planet at the latitude of the South is warmer in winter and doesn't get those very anomalous cold winter blasts. The problem is the lack of a northern ocean or high mountains blocking or modifying the cold air.
A better solution would have been the US buying Baja California to give us a fantastic long coastline far more dramatic and beautiful than the current warm and boring one (East Coast), or the cold and dramatic one (West Coast). Baja CA wraps it all up in a nice package.
If Mexico ever got its act together it would be a fantastic place to retire to for winter. Who knows, maybe someday the US and Mexico will be in a kind of European Union arrangement with each other and Canada and then we can all enjoy the kind of climates we like.
San Diego's SST hit 76F today: that's not warm enough for you? Bear in mind that El Nino is gone so you can no longer credit that for last summer's warm SST. and when we had previous La Ninas (2010) the SST at this time of the year were in the low to mid 60s. My warm epoch theory might hold true.
San Diego's SST hit 76F today: that's not warm enough for you?
You know as well as I how anomalous that is, and it will be far colder as soon as the warm PDO ends. The avg water temp at the Scripps pier over like a 70 year record for July and August is 68F. 68F is darn cold for that latitude. So no, it doesn't cut it. Why don't you add up how many summers for a long record had an avg SST of 76F in San Diego (and no not San Diego Bay, I mean ocean) and get back to us. Wanna bet it is only a handful in the last few stupidly warm PDO years.
Even so, it is a tiny blob of warm with the vast majority of the west coast having very cold water. And no it isn't nearly as warm as the Sea of Cortez.
I would be willing to bet that even 10 degree further south you would still get stupidly cold arctic blasts this time going even further south with all that land right to the Arctic.
The problem is not the current latitude, as just about every single place on the planet at the latitude of the South is warmer in winter and doesn't get those very anomalous cold winter blasts. The problem is the lack of a northern ocean or high mountains blocking or modifying the cold air.
A better solution would have been the US buying Baja California to give us a fantastic long coastline far more dramatic and beautiful than the current warm and boring one (East Coast), or the cold and dramatic one (West Coast). Baja CA wraps it all up in a nice package.
If Mexico ever got its act together it would be a fantastic place to retire to for winter. Who knows, maybe someday the US and Mexico will be in a kind of European Union arrangement with each other and Canada and then we can all enjoy the kind of climates we like.
There would still be cold spells in winter but with places like Charleston, SC straddling the tropic of Cancer, record low would be around freezing. You could grow all kinds of palms there except the ultratropicals. Even Philly at 30N could grow many subtropical plants similar to Orlando.
There would still be cold spells in winter but with places like Charleston, SC straddling the tropic of Cancer, record low would be around freezing. You could grow all kinds of palms there except the ultratropicals. Even Philly at 30N could grow many subtropical plants similar to Orlando.
No, where I live would be at less than 17 degrees north. Say goodbye to snow, or even real seasons. I'd prefer a modest shift north, about 5 degrees or so. Even a shift of 10 degrees north is a bit much lol.
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