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Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Originally Posted by deneb78
Do you consider Bogotá, Colombia to have a subtropical climate? It also has a yearly mean of around 14C too. On wiki it even calls it a subtropical climate.
The wiki data are strange,because,it are at 4N,and summer there are cooler than winter... wtf
It's tropical enough not to make a real difference + the meteorological summer comes after the wettest period, something that is known to sink temps in tropical wet and dry climates. Not that Bogotá is tropical, but its latitude certainly is.
I think Bogotá technically is oceanic though since it lacks any month above 17 C. For it to be subtropical it has to have a warm month for me, and it clearly doesn't.
It is however an equatorial highland climate and they don't follow the rules of the mid-latitudes as in Amsterdam Island.
I don't really consider 13°C to be warm. More like mild. If no month has a mean max over 20°C, it is hard for me to consider it subtropical. A mean annual temp of 14°C is quite cold for a subtropical climate. One of the key features of a subtropical climate, IMO, is being warm most of the year.
My thoughts is that since I live in Europe it influences my thinking on subtropical. Having been to Madeira and seen how tropical it actually looked in spite of the warmest month only being at 23 C has really got me thinking in new terms some years later.
On the other hand, I believe Americans whose subtropical climates are influenced by severe heat waves in summer and quite cool winters are less likely than me to subscribe to ultra-maritime areas that never get cold as subtropical. As for me, living in a sub-maritime climate that sees frequent -10 C lows in winter it really illustrates how wide the oceanic scale has gone as well. It already covers so many bases that it feels crazy that Köppen would couple my local climate with Whangarei, Vigo, Bilbao and Melbourne...
My thoughts is that since I live in Europe it influences my thinking on subtropical. Having been to Madeira and seen how tropical it actually looked in spite of the warmest month only being at 23 C has really got me thinking in new terms some years later.
On the other hand, I believe Americans whose subtropical climates are influenced by severe heat waves in summer and quite cool winters are less likely than me to subscribe to ultra-maritime areas that never get cold as subtropical. As for me, living in a sub-maritime climate that sees frequent -10 C lows in winter it really illustrates how wide the oceanic scale has gone as well. It already covers so many bases that it feels crazy that Köppen would couple my local climate with Whangarei, Vigo, Bilbao and Melbourne...
Classification isn't actually useful in any way. I will only get a clear idea of a place's climate, by looking at the 30 year means.
Do you consider Bogotá, Colombia to have a subtropical climate? It also has a yearly mean of around 14C too. On wiki it even calls it a subtropical climate.
It's too bad this island wasn't larger and had actual towns on it. It would be fascinating to see what the vegetation looks like on street view.
Yeah I agree... this place has a rather pleasant climate. It's odd that it was never settled. I mean you have over 10 million people who live in Moscow which has a far worse climate IMO.
It's too bad this island wasn't larger and had actual towns on it. It would be fascinating to see what the vegetation looks like on street view.
Google Amsterdam Island and you'll find it's surprisingly treeless.
It certainly looks more alive than in a tundra island, but I guess the high wind speeds and its small surface area doesn't help trees. It is more a case of location as opposed to the temperature range. In a coastal location with this climate palms would do very well.
Yeah I agree... this place has a rather pleasant climate. It's odd that it was never settled. I mean you have over 10 million people who live in Moscow which has a far worse climate IMO.
I don't think it's the climate that is the problem, it's the size and how isolated the island is. If you look at Tristan da Cunha the climate there is very similar. But that island is almost trice as large as Ile Amsterdam. Even with this it's population is still only just above 250 people.
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