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Old 10-06-2017, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Cold winter with no snow indeed would be the worst alternative. The best would be an above average frontloaded winter with an occasional snowstorm, especially if that snowstorm magically coincides with the exam time
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I prefer as much snow as possible, but a cold and dry winter would not be bad as long as it was cold enough for snow to remain on the ground. For example, I would prefer an average Minneapolis winter to an average Buffalo winter because an inch of snow is on the ground for around 90 days vs. 70 days, enough though Minneapolis averages 50-60 inches of snow versus 90-100 in Buffalo.
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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I prefer as much snow as possible, but a cold and dry winter would not be bad as long as it was cold enough for snow to remain on the ground. For example, I would prefer an average Minneapolis winter to an average Buffalo winter because an inch of snow is on the ground for around 90 days vs. 70 days, enough though Minneapolis averages 50-60 inches of snow versus 90-100 in Buffalo.
That would be the worst, then you get nasty rock-hard snow by February. Isn't snow the best when it's fresh enough to throw snowballs? And in NYC when the snow lies around for a long time it turns gray and brown, it's ****ing disgusting. Nastier than the sandwiches at Subway
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Old 10-06-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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That would be the worst, then you get nasty rock-hard snow by February. Isn't snow the best when it's fresh enough to throw snowballs? And in NYC when the snow lies around for a long time it turns gray and brown, it's ****ing disgusting. Nastier than the sandwiches at Subway
Minneapolis gets many days of fresh snow, but relatively small amounts of snow in each event, so there is often a few inches of snow with the bottom layer hard and the top layer softer. Either way, I enjoy the look of snow-covered ground, even if it is to hard to do much with the snow. As to the dirty snow, that is an issue in cities but once into the suburbs only a small percentage of the land is roads, so it is not as much of an issue. To me, snow cover, even if the snow is dirty in some areas, is preferable to a bare landscape with no snow at all.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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For most of the NH, extreme cold is always associated with a lot of snow. Warm or mild winters are dry, or mostly rainy.
Uhmmmm no? 1977 ring a bell? Coldest winter ever??? Also what is with your prediction of coldest winter in NH this year?. Sun? La nina? Do explain...
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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For most of the NH, extreme cold is always associated with a lot of snow. Warm or mild winters are dry, or mostly rainy.
Hmm. Not sure why you made that assumption or post. Not true at all, in fact opposite. Extreme cold is associated with dry air.


However, a fresh snowpack can make air extremely cold.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:55 AM
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Location: Tennessee
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https://www.almanac.com/content/wint...cast-2017-2018

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Hmm. Not sure why you made that assumption or post. Not true at all, in fact opposite. Extreme cold is associated with dry air.


However, a fresh snowpack can make air extremely cold.
I was speaking of the winter, not daily or weekly temps. Extremely cold winters usually have more snow, for most of the NH. Exceptions abound, and of course there can be an extremely cold winter with little precip. It's just not the norm.

I could be wrong of course.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:02 AM
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Location: Tennessee
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Also what is with your prediction of coldest winter in NH this year?. Sun? La nina? Do explain...
Not everywhere, but the possibility is there.

https://phys.org/news/2011-10-link-s...-revealed.html

https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-pres...-double-dynamo

If the UV levels do influence climate, it's possible for the global mean to stay the same, but the cold influences mid latitudes, causing extreme cold, which we have already observed.

If the sun is the main driver of climate change, we will find out.

UK Winter 2017-18 Weather Forecast, Cold Signs? | KasimsWeatherWatcher.com
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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https://www.almanac.com/content/wint...cast-2017-2018

I was speaking of the winter, not daily or weekly temps. Extremely cold winters usually have more snow, for most of the NH. Exceptions abound, and of course there can be an extremely cold winter with little precip. It's just not the norm.

I could be wrong of course.
Hmm, this could be an awesome stat to look for actually. You may be right. I looked at Chicago, Albany and Pittsburgh's Top 25 coldest years and Top 25 least snowy yrs. None had a match.


So while its a normal pattern to happen within a given winter (Extremely Cold and Dry), the winter as a whole is not common?


However... Warmest and Snowiest winters are more common to find. For here most recent is


2005 24th warmest while 8th snowiest
2013 13th warmest while 2nd snowiest.
2017 4th warmest while 17th snowiest.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Honestly I would prefer 25F with snow over 35F with cold rain. 30s with cold rain is the most disgusting weather ever. Rain is pretty nasty under 60 degrees, rain feels the best when it's warm out
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