Joe90 was right, veg defines winter climate (world, freezing, all-time)

[tom77falcons]

Originally Posted by srfoskey

That doesn't entirely work with vegetation I don't think. This is what eastern Oklahoma (anual temp mean ~15°C) looks like in winter: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5658...!7i3328!8i1664

That looks far more dead and cold than here in winter lol.

[deneb78]

Originally Posted by tom77falcons

That looks far more dead and cold than here in winter lol.

Yeah here too... our winter is much greener than that and our average temp is much lower. Annual average temp only tells part of the story.

[tom77falcons]

Originally Posted by deneb78

Yeah here too... our winter is much greener than that and our average temp is much lower. Annual average temp only tells part of the story.

You just validated my point between Raleigh, Atlanta, Dallas, and Austin. Each one progressively warmer on the average min temp reached each winter.

[Ed's Mountain]

Originally Posted by tom77falcons

You just validated my point between Raleigh, Atlanta, Dallas, and Austin. Each one progressively warmer on the average min temp reached each winter.

How is that different from hardiness zones though?

[tom77falcons]

Originally Posted by Ed's Mountain

How is that different from hardiness zones though?

hardiness = winter vegetation = climate, does it not?

[Ed's Mountain]

Originally Posted by tom77falcons

hardiness = winter vegetation = climate, does it not?

So these should be the same then.

[Joe90]

^^^
Nope, because classification isn't real.

[Ed's Mountain]

Originally Posted by Joe90

^^^
Nope, because classification isn't real.

So there's nothing special about New Zealand's climate? It's the same as Edmonton?

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Ed's Mountain

So there's nothing special about New Zealand's climate? It's the same as Edmonton?

I don't need a classification to tell me that they are different climates -classification and climate, aren't the same thing.

[Ed's Mountain]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I don't need a classification to tell me that they are different climates -simply.

But don't you want to know why they are different climates? Or in other words what the underlying mechanisms and genetics of the climates are?

Classifications are helpful because they illustrate patterns, raise interesting questions, and the answers to those questions yield a deeper understanding. Without a classification system it's impossible to arrive at a cohesive model of global atmospheric circulation and climate genetics; all you'd have is bits and pieces.


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