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Old 06-23-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Fairness isn't a concept that applies to climate, but I think you get my point.

Where Jacarandas will grow depends on climate, not classifications.
I'm not sure I do get your point.

My point is that Motueka's climate has far more in common with London or Amsterdam or any other oceanic climate than it does with non-oceanic places like Singapore or Phoenix or Edmonton.

My other point is that there's a spectrum of oceanic climates. Some of them will happily grow jacarandas; some will not. Not surprisingly, those that support jacarandas are at lower latitudes.
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I think there's two major types of Cfb climates: those that are considered subtropical and those that are considered temperate by the Trewartha classification.


Cfb climates with >7 months with an average temperature above 10°C = Subtropical
Cfb climates with 4-7 months with an average temperature above 10°C = Temperate
Trewartha based his subtropical notion on the ability of a climate to sustain a more active ecosystem during the cold season - he saw a short cold season was more crucial in a subtropical climate, than a hot warm season.

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I'm not sure I do get your point.

My point is that Motueka's climate has far more in common with London or Amsterdam or any other oceanic climate than it does with non-oceanic places like Singapore or Phoenix or Edmonton.

My other point is that there's a spectrum of oceanic climates. Some of them will happily grow jacarandas; some will not. Not surprisingly, those that support jacarandas are at lower latitudes.
It directly relates to the out of context point you made in your previous thread, that NZ has it's vegetation for specific reasons - if the native vegetation can't tell one much about the climate, exotic vegetation can.

I think we all understand that climates belong within classification, defined by numerical parameters, but that doesn't give all within that group the same climate, only the same classification.

It's not latitude that is critical to Jacarandas, but temperature.
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