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Old 08-23-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Welcome to the 21st Century culture, where we're so busy with our heads down chasing the cheese that we don't feel inclined to give our fellow humanoids a smidgen of our "uber-valuable" time.

Have you noticed it? How many of you are out there are chasing your dreams while putting what's left of your relationships on the back burner until you achieve success? Sadly enough, my generation, GenY, is extremely guilty of this. Though I don't place all of the blame on them. Most of our dreams have grown so far out of reach, that many of us believe we have no choice but to remain in a perpetual state of chasing them down, no matter how long it takes or how much it costs. First, a bachelor's degree isn't enough. So now we have droves of people pursuing their Master's degree. How long before that isn't enough? 10 years? 20 years? Are they going to start creating degrees beyone the Ph.D just so we can stay "competitive"?
It's that they're struggling to compete. They just seem to have a short attention span. I saw an article a while back where young people were commenting on how it requires too much effort to write full paragraphs.
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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...is unreal.
That will start to change now that online schooling is becoming mainstream. The days of sitting in class telling the professor "You know what I'm trying to say." are over.

With online classes there will be much more writing involved.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:29 PM
 
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I have to disagree, my degree in chemical engineering is probably one of the best in the world, as far as US technical universiteis and programs no other nation can touch us. It is not the new high school if you are in a high speed program. Grammer just is not relavent, especially on a message board, if im proposing a new design that will cost millions then of course it will be proof read and so forth but for every day run of the mill discussions no one really cares.
I strongly disagree and am aghast at what you just wrote and the sentiment behind it. If you had the mental acuity to make it through a difficult engineering program then you should know and correctly practise the basics of grammar, punctuation and articulation.
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:25 PM
 
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It sounds like you took offense to them not liking you or your lectures.
I take offense at them wasting my time.

If they don't want to learn, or don't like the subject, then don't go to school. The lazy students consume far too many educational services. ...but "they" think tat "they're" entitled to respect.
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:27 PM
 
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You take it to a freelance writer and pay the person to proofread it. That way it is perfect upon presentation.
...that is, if you're not competent enough to successfully finish your own work...
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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I have to disagree, my degree in chemical engineering is probably one of the best in the world, as far as US technical universiteis and programs no other nation can touch us. It is not the new high school if you are in a high speed program. Grammer just is not relavent, especially on a message board, if im proposing a new design that will cost millions then of course it will be proof read and so forth but for every day run of the mill discussions no one really cares.

If you think china and india are surpasing schools like MIT then your dilusional. China is about to tank and the US will always be on top.
Did you even bother to read all my posts? I said there is a difference between the tier-1 schools from the rest. And I never said China or India are surpassing schools like MIT. However, If you think MIT exemplifies the average U.S. technical college, you are delusional.

And by the way, if you went to an elite graduate science/engineering school, you would realize that many of the students are from abroad. And you obviously did not go to MIT. You do realize that almost a quarter of the undergraduates, and nearly 40% of the graduate students at MIT are international students. At Caltech, those numbers are even higher. (This is coming from someone who was accepted to their engineering program (which I declined). I also had many other international friends that attended that school, and they would all agree that grammar is always important.)
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:42 PM
 
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At Caltech, those numbers are even higher. (This is coming from someone who was accepted to their engineering program (which I declined).
You must be a damn smart dude to have been accepted to Caltech.
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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I did so much writing and reading in my online courses.

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That will start to change now that online schooling is becoming mainstream. The days of sitting in class telling the professor "You know what I'm trying to say." are over.

With online classes there will be much more writing involved.
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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They paid for those educational services. And if you aren't inspiring them then I'd say you are wasting their time. Everyone is entitled to respect.

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I take offense at them wasting my time.

If they don't want to learn, or don't like the subject, then don't go to school. The lazy students consume far too many educational services. ...but "they" think tat "they're" entitled to respect.
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:20 PM
 
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Everyone has different aptitudes and learning curves. Their ideas are what counts. They can always improve their grammar. It is never too late to learn. I improved in my grammar and reference abilities when I was in college not in high school. A very patient professor helped me. I was making B's in her coursework. And she said if I just improved my grammar I could make A's. So I did that. And there you go!

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...that is, if you're not competent enough to successfully finish your own work...
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