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Old 11-08-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: under a bridge
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It's not stupid at all. When you seriously take a look at it, there's no good reason for prices of anything to be as high as they are. They're ALL too high.
That's exactly why $10 an hour isn't good enough.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Because it's overpriced. There's no reason a chunk of land, or a home, is worth more than...$10,000.

You are trying to make a joke - right?
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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It's not stupid at all. When you seriously take a look at it, there's no good reason for prices of anything to be as high as they are. They're ALL too high.
It's just numbers man. In your world you get $10/hr and land costs $10,000. In my world I get $250/hr and land costs $250,000. It's the same ratio... same buying power.

Making $10/hr and land costing $250,000 is when you know you're at the bottom of the chain.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:49 PM
 
Location: 53179
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I don't think that ANYONE should get more than $10 an hour. I don't care if you're an award winning lawyer or surgeon or scientist. No one alive needs to make more than $10 an hour.

A doctor needs it to pay off his tuition. If everybody made 10 bucks an hour there would be no more doctors, lawyers,dentists, pilots, cops, fire fighters, teachers.... and the list goes on. because nobody would waste years of education to be a brain-surgeon, even if it was free, or risk his life every day to protect your safety,to earn a whopping 10 bucks an hour. What are your reasoning behind this?
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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Its hard to second guess questions like that. I think it depends on your age, your experience, and what kind of job you are looking at. If it is a job anyone off the street could do, don't click the minimum wage button, choose something in the middle. If it is a very technical job and you have no experience clicking the top pay bracket would be foolish. But you have already choosen which to click, so now it makes no difference.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I don't think that ANYONE should get more than $10 an hour. I don't care if you're an award winning lawyer or surgeon or scientist. No one alive needs to make more than $10 an hour.
Seriously dude, I'm beginning to wonder about you... people work hard to increase their knowledge (through schooling/training), and you think they deserve the same as those who didn't? And I don't know where you live, but around here $10/hr is barely enough to support shared housing & Top Ramen for dinner.

You must be very sheltered, live in an extremely cheap area, and/or you're supported by an outside source - that's all I can come up with to explain your lack of logical thinking. Sorry, but I didn't waste all that time & money on my education, not to mention my years of work experience, to make the same as somebody straight out of high school. What would be the point of bettering yourself and working, if the salary cap was barely enough to live on? Methinks you might be a fan of Karl Marx.

Edit: I do know where you live, and it's a place where $10/hr probably IS enough to live on... too bad I live in California, and have zero desire to move to Florida.

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Old 11-08-2010, 11:08 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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So I would say, unless you are truly willing to work for a very low wage, don't put it down because once they get it in their heads that you "are a bargain" they will not want to back down and give you a higher wage, but will try and lowball you even more.
I have faced these "salary buttons" before, and would have to agree with the above statement... don't put less than you or the job are worth, or they'll assume no negotiations are necessary. You're cheap labor, after all! Even when I was entry-level & getting the first job in my field, I requested more than the minimum salary - they negotiated a bit lower, and we settled somewhere in the middle. If I'd started at the bottom, that's precisely what I would have gotten.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:33 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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It's not stupid at all. When you seriously take a look at it, there's no good reason for prices of anything to be as high as they are. They're ALL too high.
You may be right, but how exactly do you plan to solve that problem? I don't think we can undo thousands of years of social progression, and most of us do live in reality... and not everyone is happy working for (permanently) low wages, never buying a home, never eating out, not driving a car, etc. I'm happy for you if you're happy living that way, but to assume we're all the same is pretty ignorant and self-absorbed. Oh yeah, I forgot - you fully admitted you have no regards for anyone but yourself, so I guess this is a logical thought coming from TKramar's world.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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And there's something wrong with that? After all, no one else is going to do it.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Upper Midwest
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Yeah, on any application I always put "standard starting wage."


But if minimum and $15 were the only options, I think you made the right choice.
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