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This article is about Spain, where the unemployment rate for youth is 40%, there are 4.6 million Spaniards unemployed. It is not unusual for children to remain living with their parents until well into their 30's.
The man in the article, a 25 year old male, was court ordered to leave his parents home, because he was abusive. But the parents will still have to make his car payment, and pay a $292 month food allowance to him.
My question is not about parenting, or him getting thrown out..but is this the possible future of the United States? With higher unemployment, and adult children just not being able to find jobs? Living at home until 30-35 years old?
Not unless we employ an unemployment insurance program that would make it more attractive to be unemployed for long periods of time like they do in most European countries.
My question is not about parenting, or him getting thrown out..but is this the possible future of the United States? With higher unemployment, and adult children just not being able to find jobs? Living at home until 30-35 years old?
The future, no, it is all ready taking place in the present.
Probably belongs on the Political forum. But it is a problem. Also recent college grads working in retail jobs, but at least they are not strictly unemployed.
I've made this point before (or tried to) in other venues and other forum posts too.
Maybe it'll get more traction here.
My Observation: The unemployment problem is less about not having enough jobs for all that may need one
than it is about having more people available to work than there are jobs that actually need doing.
Industry and commerce are chugging along OK enough without these people being employed making for a lot of "surplus" people... perhaps the entirety of the 20-40 Million now not working.
Over the last 30-40 years in the US... at the same time we have shuttered our older industrial base, off-shored other jobs and then through technology and process changes streamlined the remaining jobs down to the point that we're phenomenally efficient at what we do get done even if those who are working are putting in more hours than the past generation did.
But during this same time... we have significantly, dangerously, one could say "boomed" the raw number of our population.
This raw number of people is also impacting all sorts of infrastructure limits and resource reserves.
(151M in 1950 to 203M in 1970 to 308M in 2010) We have gone too far.
As to a solution for the immediate problem? I don't know.
That's above my pay grade.
Not unless we employ an unemployment insurance program that would make it more attractive to be unemployed for long periods of time like they do in most European countries.
It is already occurring. The majority of recent college graduates are living back at home unable to find work.
Yes, we've exported jobs(low pay, low skill jobs) but we also import jobs(high skill, high pay) Examples would be Toyota and Honda, both of which have operations here in the USA.
People like to think it's all about exporting jobs. We import a lot of jobs. There are jobs available. Now, you may not want that job, but it's there for you.
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Originally Posted by MrRational
I've made this point before (or tried to) in other venues and other forum posts too.
Maybe it'll get more traction here.
My Observation: The unemployment problem is less about not having enough jobs for all that may need one
than it is about having more people available to work than there are jobs that actually need doing.
Industry and commerce are chugging along OK enough without these people being employed making for a lot of "surplus" people... perhaps the entirety of the 20-40 Million now not working.
Over the last 30-40 years in the US... at the same time we have shuttered our older industrial base, off-shored other jobs and then through technology and process changes streamlined the remaining jobs down to the point that we're phenomenally efficient at what we do get done even if those who are working are putting in more hours than the past generation did.
But during this same time... we have significantly, dangerously, one could say "boomed" the raw number of our population.
This raw number of people is also impacting all sorts of infrastructure limits and resource reserves.
(151M in 1950 to 203M in 1970 to 308M in 2010) We have gone too far.
As to a solution for the immediate problem? I don't know.
That's above my pay grade.
But during this same time... we have significantly, dangerously, one could say "boomed" the raw number of our population.
This raw number of people is also impacting all sorts of infrastructure limits and resource reserves.
(151M in 1950 to 203M in 1970 to 308M in 2010) We have gone too far.
As to a solution for the immediate problem? I don't know.
That's above my pay grade.
Well for starters, the government could eliminate the child tax credits. This might make people think twice about having children if they know they will have to feed, clothe and put a roof over their head without any help from the government.
I know this alone will not reduce the population, but it might just help slow down the growth. At the very least, it will save the government some much needed money.
It is already occurring. The majority of recent college graduates are living back at home unable to find work.
The question was, and I quote, "Living at home until 30-35 years old?" I'm willing to bet that the majority of 30-35 year olds do not live at home with their parents. In fact, I'm willing to bet that the number is below 10%. That's a little different than a 20-something who moves back for a short period until they get into a more comfortable financial situation. 95% of my 20-something friends live on their own. I'm 25 and I live over 1,000 miles from my parents.
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