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Well I got a call yesterday from a job I applied for and accepted their offer. Well, I had three references on my resume. The women in HR is saying that she can't call two of them because they were former co-workers.
One of the references was the man who actually hired me where I'm currently employed. He quit 4 years ago to start his own business. Then I done some side work for him building his website and set up his network. Great reference.
The other was the maintenance manager. He quit about 2 months ago.
Even though they are former co-workers, she can't use them because they were co-workers where I'm currently employed.
I don't understand this at all. I have only worked at 3 places my whole life and the other two places were just grocery stores. I mean I don't really have anymore references.
Does anyone understand why they wouldn't use the two logical references that I have just because they were former co-workers? One being a former supervisor.
That is odd they gave you a job offer but they didn't check the references first.
The norm is after they decide on you, they then ask for references, once they have spoken to your references a job offer is extended.
Wouldn't the man who hired you been your former boss? A former boss is just what they should want as far as a reference goes.
Did you clearly communicate to this woman that this man was the person who hired you?
Can't you also get one your past bosses at one of the supermarkets to be your reference?
In the future contact people you want to use as references and tell them you're interviewing. I would also take their names off your resume.
You give their names and numbers after the employer requests them.
I clearly stated that my first reference was the person who hired me and was my supervisor. I told her this twice and both times she said she couldn't use them.
You're right, it's ass-backwards. They extended the offer yesterday, I accepted, then they call me today to tell me my references are basically useless.
I'm going to call back in a little bit and ask her what they are planning to do. I could get my supervisor from one of the grocery stores to use.
This HR person seems like a nit wit. Coworkers are supposed to be your references. If it came down to it I'd just get a disposable cell and ask a friend or relative to play someone for you.
The whole thing is confusing. I think you need to ask her exactly what is acceptable and what is not.
My first thought is that they want references that were your managers and somehow think the people you gave were on the same level. I have also experienced before where they want one of the refererences to not actually be someone you worked with. But that doesn't sound like the problem here.
I clearly stated that my first reference was the person who hired me and was my supervisor. I told her this twice and both times she said she couldn't use them.
You're right, it's ass-backwards. They extended the offer yesterday, I accepted, then they call me today to tell me my references are basically useless.
I'm going to call back in a little bit and ask her what they are planning to do. I could get my supervisor from one of the grocery stores to use.
That is crazy. Is there someone else in HR you can talk to? That is your former boss.
I would say "I'm not understanding what you want, this person hired me and I worked under them".
I would also get in contact with your former supervisors at the grocery stores as well.
Often times employers want to see professional references AND personal references, (not family members). If she is not telling you this, she isn't doing her job very well, at all.
Give her some personal references, then. I mean, what else do you have besides personal and professional? Or, go with the upcoming "rent a reference" business. Great idea.
Wow. That is BS. I usually use current co-workers for references. She is messed up. At some point the HR people need to get real.
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