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Old 09-03-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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Ha, I looked at a "nursing school" once, in Utah...they PROMISED a career making $50,000 when you graduated, in less than 14 months. They said that they were "licensed"...the tuition was like $30,000...and it was really just a place, that had you take all the classes thru Excelsior...RIP OFF!!! I can't even imagine that anyone went there, and bought their bogus crapola...but I think people did...and they had "loan" experts there to help you fill out your paperwork for loans...anyone who went there would have not even been qualified to change a bandaid if you ask me...
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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Ha, I looked at a "nursing school" once, in Utah...they PROMISED a career making $50,000 when you graduated, in less than 14 months. They said that they were "licensed"...the tuition was like $30,000...and it was really just a place, that had you take all the classes thru Excelsior...RIP OFF!!! I can't even imagine that anyone went there, and bought their bogus crapola...but I think people did...and they had "loan" experts there to help you fill out your paperwork for loans...anyone who went there would have not even been qualified to change a bandaid if you ask me...

Wow, $30K would buy you several years at a university....
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:32 PM
 
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IDK about a nursing shortage, but there is a shortage of professors/teachers for the profession, hence the long waiting lists, especially at the CC levels
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:59 PM
 
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IDK about a nursing shortage, but there is a shortage of professors/teachers for the profession, hence the long waiting lists, especially at the CC levels
Well, if there is no shortage of nurses, than how can there be a shortage of teachers to churn out more nurses Oh wait, that's right... The nursing shortage is the sales pitch ha!
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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Well, if there is no shortage of nurses, than how can there be a shortage of teachers to churn out more nurses Oh wait, that's right... The nursing shortage is the sales pitch ha!
B/c of lot of nurses turned to teaching, but there's more money in nursing than teaching. Hence, the shortage.....
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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B/c of lot of nurses turned to teaching, but there's more money in nursing than teaching. Hence, the shortage.....
I don't think you quite follow... If the market is saturated with nurses, than why do we need more people to produce more nurses? Case in point, the program I was in increased it's student capacity by 1/3 when the previous graduating class saw 75% of the students unemployed after 6 months. Of the working ones, only around 50% were actually working as nurses...

And the market set's the wage. If there was really such a need for nursing educators, the earning potential for a teacher would be great than that of a floor nurse. But this is not the case. I have always believed that many of the teachers taught as a way to get off the floor, and all the chaos associated with that role.
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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From what I know of the allied health fields, teachers make far less than those working in the profession.

Andy, you got it right on...since the field is becoming saturated, there is less need for teachers. That has happened with other allied health jobs...
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:01 PM
 
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What was interesting about this "nursing diploma mill" was that they "guaranteed" you to have a job..The place was a joke, it was in a strip mall. And they told you that they could get you in, right away, with no pre-requsites, or tests, with no waiting list. The "admissions" people were just chomping at the bit, to get you to sign the paperwork for student loans, and telling you about government programs to get more tuition money. And there was a chirpy film, about how much money nurse graduates from the program were earning...and how easy it would be to get a job, that people would be throwing money at you, with sign on bonuses. Did I mention, that for the enormous sum of money...that you got a CNA, LPN, then RN degree.

It was literally one of those scam job places, just waiting for someone on WIA, desperate for cash...and a job...someone who did not research, and the worst thing, was that most of the hospitals in the area considered the place a joke, and would not touch a graduate from that private program.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:21 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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I see LPN's being hired, and BSN's being hired...the RN degree is the short end. Especially RN degree with no experience, such as LPN doing RN. So...that is my perspective. Don't do the two year degree.

I agree. I am working on my MSNA (Master's of Science in Nursing Anesthesia), and I see jobs either one the low end of nursing, or on the high end; no real middle ground type of work.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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I don't think you quite follow... If the market is saturated with nurses, than why do we need more people to produce more nurses? Case in point, the program I was in increased it's student capacity by 1/3 when the previous graduating class saw 75% of the students unemployed after 6 months. Of the working ones, only around 50% were actually working as nurses...

And the market set's the wage. If there was really such a need for nursing educators, the earning potential for a teacher would be great than that of a floor nurse. But this is not the case. I have always believed that many of the teachers taught as a way to get off the floor, and all the chaos associated with that role.
That depends what you are talking about teaching. Big difference between someone with a PHD teaching at a university compared to someone with a lesser degree teaching someone in a two year program.
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