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Old 02-01-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Welcome to America! You don;t like it, take your COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST BUtt back home!!!!!!!!!! If you are an american, thats the most unpatriotic thing I've heard.

lets get the facts out into the open!
Lower Pay. You don;t like the pay an employer is offering, don;t take the job and move on to the next job! You have all the rights in the world to pick the job based on pay. If your worth money, they will pay you money, if your worth squat, expect squat. You control your worth not the employer! Are you advocating that governement steps in and start determining the minimum and maximum employers are to pay? COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!

Extreme Difficulty of Applying For Jobs: What! So employers should make it easy for you without considering their needs. Sio lets make it that the first person through the dooors are required to get the job and that made is easy on that person. Come on! this IS the UNITED STATES and we don;t dictate to employers that they can't decide who is the best person for the job because it may make it hard on poor little you to get a job. Move to China if thats how you want emplyment determined.

Horrific Workeing Cionditions: Again, QUIT!!!!!!!! if the conditions are so bad, QUIT!!! repriot them to the proper agnecies and QUIT!!!!!! But if you stay and work there day in day out, month aftre month, year after year under those "horrific conditions", your the problem, not the employer! More Sccialist thinking!!!!!!

Screwed Over By Bosses: If they are the boss, they call the shots. When your the boss, you can call the shots. It's true some bosss can be idiots but you know, YOU HOLD ALL THE CARDS! because you can standup, lookt he boss in the eyes and say "I QUIT you idiot" and walk your butt right out of that place. So why are you complaining, the workers control the bosses and if the boss is bad and they all quit, the boss has nobody to control! But if the boss is alright but your the poor performing worker who is so full of themself and the boss aint taking any of your nonsense, thats not the boss, but you.

My friend, the US is a FREE NATION! You are feee to QUIT your job and move on, so what freedom are you being denied? What RIGHTS have the employers been taking away from you?
You are possibly the worst type of a American out there. You have a right to your opinion, dont get me wrong but lashing out at another for speaking their own ? Your right... this is a free country so calling names and getting a attitude over another persons views is really not the right way to go about things. I agree with some of the posters views and think there should be balance in our work field.

"YOU HOLD ALL THE CARDS! because you can standup, lookt he boss in the eyes and say "I QUIT you idiot" and walk your butt right out of that place." This point right here is exactly what I am talking about. The worker may have no choice, they need food or money to live. Who knows, they might have a child who is ill and they have to pay the Doc to make sure the kid makes it.

Choices are not black and white like you seem to think they are. You have your opinion, you spoke it because its your right and we read it. However learn to do the same for others, and be a true American.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Welcome to America! You don;t like it, take your COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST BUtt back home!!!!!!!!!! If you are an american, thats the most unpatriotic thing I've heard.

lets get the facts out into the open!
Lower Pay. You don;t like the pay an employer is offering, don;t take the job and move on to the next job! You have all the rights in the world to pick the job based on pay. If your worth money, they will pay you money, if your worth squat, expect squat. You control your worth not the employer! Are you advocating that governement steps in and start determining the minimum and maximum employers are to pay? COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!

My friend, the US is a FREE NATION! You are feee to QUIT your job and move on, so what freedom are you being denied? What RIGHTS have the employers been taking away from you?
WOW... My friend you are going to blow an aneurysm... And please open a book once in a while instead of watching FOX and taking what they say for Gospel truth. Everything that is not Pro-American is not communism... But hey I don't blame you the "we are the best" propaganda works wonders.

You want facts, here are facts from the CIA world factbook(Yeah YOUR CIA, the one that fights against communism). Let me warn you: you may not like what the CIA's data says but at least it may stop you from making a fool of yourself by trumpeting fallacies full of misspellings:

1) The oh-so-rich and well governed USA ONLY sits at the 19th rank worldwide in terms of GDP per capita (ouch! So much for the triumphalism in terms of economy)

2)Among the countries where people make more money than the average of the Americans, you will find Luxembourg(these people make two times what the average American makes...), Lichtenstein, Monaco, Norway, ST Marteen, Australia, San Marino, Switzerland (the rest are oil producing dictatorships).

3) ALL of them have strict employees protection laws and the last time I checked, none of them were communist. Not now, not in the past... Does not go with your narrative, does it?

4) I am going to go a step further and this may well be totally unbearable for you. On top of having a population that is way much richer than the US population, ALL these countries have another thing in common: guess what it is?
They ALL have single payer healthcare system

5) Another thing that they have in common: In ALL these countries, people live a lot older than in the US ( which proves the superiority of the single payer system) and as much as TEN years older...

So please, save us the rhetoric, educate yourself (including basic spelling) and while we are at it learn critical thinking and basic manners. If people want to protect their job, that's their business and their right; if you feel like being treated like a dog, that's your right too. Superior societies do not seem to agree with you and FACTS about their GDP and life expectancy show that they are right and you are wrong.
That's annoying for a patriotism lessons giver but facts are facts.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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Welcome to America! You don;t like it, take your COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST BUtt back home!!!!!!!!!! If you are an american, thats the most unpatriotic thing I've heard.

lets get the facts out into the open!
Lower Pay. You don;t like the pay an employer is offering, don;t take the job and move on to the next job! You have all the rights in the world to pick the job based on pay. If your worth money, they will pay you money, if your worth squat, expect squat. You control your worth not the employer! Are you advocating that governement steps in and start determining the minimum and maximum employers are to pay? COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!

Extreme Difficulty of Applying For Jobs: What! So employers should make it easy for you without considering their needs. Sio lets make it that the first person through the dooors are required to get the job and that made is easy on that person. Come on! this IS the UNITED STATES and we don;t dictate to employers that they can't decide who is the best person for the job because it may make it hard on poor little you to get a job. Move to China if thats how you want emplyment determined.

Horrific Workeing Cionditions: Again, QUIT!!!!!!!! if the conditions are so bad, QUIT!!! repriot them to the proper agnecies and QUIT!!!!!! But if you stay and work there day in day out, month aftre month, year after year under those "horrific conditions", your the problem, not the employer! More Sccialist thinking!!!!!!

Screwed Over By Bosses: If they are the boss, they call the shots. When your the boss, you can call the shots. It's true some bosss can be idiots but you know, YOU HOLD ALL THE CARDS! because you can standup, lookt he boss in the eyes and say "I QUIT you idiot" and walk your butt right out of that place. So why are you complaining, the workers control the bosses and if the boss is bad and they all quit, the boss has nobody to control! But if the boss is alright but your the poor performing worker who is so full of themself and the boss aint taking any of your nonsense, thats not the boss, but you.

My friend, the US is a FREE NATION! You are feee to QUIT your job and move on, so what freedom are you being denied? What RIGHTS have the employers been taking away from you?
America can no longer have this attitude and thrive. We have too many people and not enough jobs because of technology and globalism.

We have to start moving towards a society that thinks about the greater good more than the individual.

And it is slowly starting to happen, right now.

It will happen, we have no choice, because if we don't the whole country is going to crash and burn as fewer and fewer people own everything.
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:55 AM
 
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We have to start moving towards a society that thinks about the greater good more than the individual.
thought the old saying was what you could do for country

ie, dont rely on social welfare if you are capable of working... you seem to like blaming things on a lack of jobs. sorry i dont buy that, there are jobs. you arent willing to work them and then working your way up if it doesnt start you out at a certain level, you automatically write it off as a job.

some on cd seem to think just having a college degree means they get to somehow get paid $50k starting... because they have no actual work experience? or why do they think they are worth that much?
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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OP: Probably the states with the fewest job openings.

Why open up a plant in New York when I can open up a plant in Mississippi and legally abuse my workers (and therefore make 2x profit)?
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Old 08-03-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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OP, google West Virginia, I heard they have many labor unions but not sure
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PacificFlights View Post
Welcome to America! You don;t like it, take your COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST BUtt back home!!!!!!!!!! If you are an american, thats the most unpatriotic thing I've heard.

lets get the facts out into the open!
Lower Pay. You don;t like the pay an employer is offering, don;t take the job and move on to the next job! You have all the rights in the world to pick the job based on pay. If your worth money, they will pay you money, if your worth squat, expect squat. You control your worth not the employer! Are you advocating that governement steps in and start determining the minimum and maximum employers are to pay? COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!

Extreme Difficulty of Applying For Jobs: What! So employers should make it easy for you without considering their needs. Sio lets make it that the first person through the dooors are required to get the job and that made is easy on that person. Come on! this IS the UNITED STATES and we don;t dictate to employers that they can't decide who is the best person for the job because it may make it hard on poor little you to get a job. Move to China if thats how you want emplyment determined.

Horrific Workeing Cionditions: Again, QUIT!!!!!!!! if the conditions are so bad, QUIT!!! repriot them to the proper agnecies and QUIT!!!!!! But if you stay and work there day in day out, month aftre month, year after year under those "horrific conditions", your the problem, not the employer! More Sccialist thinking!!!!!!

Screwed Over By Bosses: If they are the boss, they call the shots. When your the boss, you can call the shots. It's true some bosss can be idiots but you know, YOU HOLD ALL THE CARDS! because you can standup, lookt he boss in the eyes and say "I QUIT you idiot" and walk your butt right out of that place. So why are you complaining, the workers control the bosses and if the boss is bad and they all quit, the boss has nobody to control! But if the boss is alright but your the poor performing worker who is so full of themself and the boss aint taking any of your nonsense, thats not the boss, but you.

My friend, the US is a FREE NATION! You are feee to QUIT your job and move on, so what freedom are you being denied? What RIGHTS have the employers been taking away from you?
I never forget that people died for my rights as a worker. When those rights start to be slowly taken away, that means they died in vain.

Look up the history of labor in America.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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OP, google West Virginia, I heard they have many labor unions but not sure
Only need one if you are member, afge makes all the states pretty equally good
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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thought the old saying was what you could do for country

ie, dont rely on social welfare if you are capable of working... you seem to like blaming things on a lack of jobs. sorry i dont buy that, there are jobs. you arent willing to work them and then working your way up if it doesnt start you out at a certain level, you automatically write it off as a job.

some on cd seem to think just having a college degree means they get to somehow get paid $50k starting... because they have no actual work experience? or why do they think they are worth that much?
Of course there are all kinds out there, but I would of never thought people who want to work would end up unemployable, but it is happening. I can't remember a time ever in my life that that has happened until this last recession. It is a huge blow to society.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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Of course there are all kinds out there, but I would of never thought people who want to work would end up unemployable, but it is happening. I can't remember a time ever in my life that that has happened until this last recession. It is a huge blow to society.
Yes.

And yet we have the usual folks on the far-right blaming these individuals instead of the politicians and business leaders who created this mess.
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