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Old 04-29-2012, 07:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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My last job as an easy Proe Designer Detailer paid $32.10/hr no benefits, - with O.T. it was $68K/yr. Great job before the recession..
Pre Recession is ancient history. The offers you are dissing now are in a narrow salary range, which indicates they are the new market rate.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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On 4-16-2012 I got a recruiter call & email me for a great paying $35 / hr Proe Designer contract job in Memphis. I don't know what happened / he hasn't contacted back. Maybe he thinks my resume is fishy with saying I've been doing PT project work for Article One since Summer 2009 - which is all actually a big lie to make my resume look like I've not been unemployed since Aug 2008. I'm one of those unfortunate qualified candidates laid off before the big recession / downsizing of 2009 but employers and recruiters see my long term unemployment as a big red flag. So I have to lie on my resume, but I wonder if it's backfiring on me.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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My point was you have no sound basis for telling Jesse was he should accept as a wage. He is of higher skill and you have no clue about his situation. So he's making $100/mo disability, so what? So he should be an engineer for $101/mo? That is simply pea-brained logic that deserved ridicule.
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This coming from a condescending prick who looks down his nose at others.
So true.

He's of higher skill why? Because he has a college degree and I don't? I could care less what decision he makes... he's an unemployed engineer. I'm a high school graduate with no degree and I'm making the same $65k that he is posting that you need lots of skill and experience for and seems to be having difficulty in getting for himself.

Ridicule me all you want. I'll try not to think about what a horrible blue collar worker I am as I'm cashing my $1000 paychecks every week.

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What kind of tech are these people? What do they exactly do for work?

I think nowadays a college degree is too expensive and not worth it. Like my Mech Eng degree... It's so hard to be a Product Design Engineer

It's getting tough and low pay to be an engineer. To get a $65k salary they want you to have lots of skills and experience.
What do I do for work? Right now I run CNC machines... specifically saws and waterjets cutting aluminum and titanium aircraft parts. I have 18 years metalworking experience. I work for one of the top 3 suppliers for Boeing Commercial Airplanes...

So far this year I've grossed $23k in 4 months... on pace for just under $70k.

I never got past Algebra II in high school. Call me uneducated if you want... I have lots of skill and experience with a good job and I don't have student loan debt. I sleep well at night.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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My last job as an easy Proe Designer Detailer paid $32.10/hr no benefits, - with O.T. it was $68K/yr. Great job before the recession.
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Pre Recession is ancient history. The offers you are dissing now are in a narrow salary range, which indicates they are the new market rate.
I agree. I think once the unemployed realize that they are in a post-recession era with lower payscales that they will have better luck getting a job.

I was fortunate in the fact that I am making more now than I was when I was laid off, but that has a lot to do with the fact that I moved from a very poor area with a low COL (Savannah, GA) to an area with a very high COL and higher pay (Seattle, WA).

The house I sold in Georgia for $135k would cost $300k here.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I agree. I think once the unemployed realize that they are in a post-recession era with lower payscales that they will have better luck getting a job.

I was fortunate in the fact that I am making more now than I was when I was laid off, but that has a lot to do with the fact that I moved from a very poor area with a low COL (Savannah, GA) to an area with a very high COL and higher pay (Seattle, WA).

The house I sold in Georgia for $135k would cost $300k here.
Add in he is now unemployed 3.5 years, and of course, the offers now are much lower than 5-6 years ago, when unemployment rates were still fairly low.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Add in he is now unemployed 3.5 years, and of course, the offers now are much lower than 5-6 years ago, when unemployment rates were still fairly low.
Times have definitely changed.

On a side note... Race to the Bottom: Georgia Legislators Approve Severe Cuts to Unemployment Insurance | unemployedworkers.org

I don't miss that state. At all.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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We don't care about the color of someone's skin or their gender, where they go to church or don't go as the case might be. We care about the quality of their work and if they are a team player. Our workforce ranges from 19 to ready to retire.
Who is we exactly? Surely you don't speak for everyone. True, many people are not discriminatory, but many are.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:35 AM
 
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I've done dirty work too as a Chicago Downtown bike messenger, but it wasn't profitable.
If that's the dirtiest thing you've ever done, you have no idea what dirty work really is.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:37 AM
 
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Who is we exactly? Surely you don't speak for everyone. True, many people are not discriminatory, but many are.
I was speaking for my company. Like I said, over half our workforce is minority owned, in fact the company itself is minority owned.
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