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I have more formal education than my boss, while one of my direct reports has more formal education than me. We all do our job and I can still learn from both of them.
I'm a speech-language pathologist & I'm working on my 2nd Masters degree & I'm still debating eventually getting a PhD. I'm sure my boss has a Masters, but I don't know about a 2nd Masters & she doesn't have a PhD I know. So technically, I probably have more college units, not that it matters. She's still the one making the big bucks...not me. Her position is in administration, so it would take me probably 15 years to make as much as she's making now. I'd never get into admin.
I just thought this would be an intersting topic to discuss. How about you & your boss? How do you feel that you have the higher degree (or more degrees) & your boss doesn't, yet they're making more money?
Yes, my boss has a masters and I have a PhD.
Degrees show technical expertise, to me they don't show anything about leadership. I don't think I am any better or more qualified because I have a PhD. Do I have more technical expertise in my area? Yes.
Does she leverage my technical expertise? Yes.
Do I eventually want to move into a leadership role? Yes. Life is a process and learning how to leverage and lead others is a skill I hope to develop over the next few years.
Technically I do. I have both an associates degree, and some certifications. My boss has none, but he does have 30 years experience, which speaks volumes. Anyone that could do this for 30 years and still remain sane has my respect
I did and don't give it much credance at all. College and the real world are two different things unless you did some intership at college. Theories are just that. I care about real world experience and performance not some overpriced sheepskin. The best thing I learned in college was how to critically think and question authority.
I was shocked at one time to find that, not only did my boss not even have a HS diploma, but he was actually kicked out. I couldn't help but lose respect for him after that. Then he volunteered that he was also kicked out of the Marines in boot camp.
Being well-educated doesnt guarantee real-life skills. I was a supervisor for 12 years and most of my employees had much more advanced degrees than I did.
However, I had much better decision-making skills, people skills and communicative skills. I also knew what bottom-line results were most important to my bosses and was able to prioritize the department's workload accordingly.
While my well-educated employees were good at what they did, none of them could have been an effective supervisor.
Being well-educated doesnt guarantee real-life skills. I was a supervisor for 12 years and most of my employees had much more advanced degrees than I did.
However, I had much better decision-making skills, people skills and communicative skills. I also knew what bottom-line results were most important to my bosses and was able to prioritize the department's workload accordingly.
While my well-educated employees were good at what they did, none of them could have been an effective supervisor.
Book smarts and real world smarts are two different things. An employee with both fairs much better in the long run. I've seen my fair share of degreed coworkers, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Some were great, and some never seemed to get a handle on things. Worked with guys from U of M and Duke who were nothing special, and guys with HS diplomas or even less who were real money makers for the boss. A degree is a good stepping stone, and it can open doors, but it's what you do afterwards that really counts.
I do, but that's because I work at Target and some of the managers have been there forever and only have their high school diplomas or community college degrees.
Below is a link of a typical school district's payscale of how teachers are paid. (This isn't my school district.) The very minimum degree a teacher needs is a Bachelors (except I know in the state of NY, they need a Masters). There's a whole payscale with the amount of degrees/colllege units going across from left to right & the amount of years on the job going from above to below. As you can see, after a certain amount of college units, you don't get paid any more for it. Then it's about how many years you've been at the job. That's why regular teachers (I'm not talking college professors) don't get PhDs because you don't get paid any more for it, plus no one needs a PhD to teacher 2 + 2 = 4. What's really sad is that a teacher has to work just about 50 yrs to not even make $90K a year. Now how many people do you know who has been at ONE job for 50 yrs? Not many people. But as we all know, teaching is a line of work that doesn't pay much.
At my job, I do work for a district, even though I'm a speech-language pathologist. Even when it was my first year starting, I got to start off all the way to the right becuase I have numerous college units beyond a Masters degree (since I'm working on my 2nd one).
...Teachers do get paid more for additional education, but it's encouraged and even required to keep their job.
Regarding teachers, look at the link above.
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Originally Posted by ragnarkar
I have 2 Masters degrees, my boss has 1.. although there are people in my company in my position with PhD's.
Like I said, I'm working on my 2nd Masters, so we basically have gone to school about as long as someone who has a PhD. I just really wish those of us with 2+ Masters could be called Dr. ____.
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Originally Posted by Quantum
I was shocked at one time to find that, not only did my boss not even have a HS diploma, but he was actually kicked out. I couldn't help but lose respect for him after that. Then he volunteered that he was also kicked out of the Marines in boot camp.
I left soon thereafter.
Yeah, a lot of absolute losers have gotten by somehow, either by their so called "sparkling" personality &they could smooze or they got the position they did by knowing the right people.
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