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For example, when I look at the employees of Goog on linkedin they are all under 30, same with a lot of tech companies. I started to examine this trying to figure out why I never even got a response from them. I was qualified for all of the positions, and I noticed this with other companies in high tech. No one that looks over 30 works there and will probably never. I am 43, but look honestly about 36, so I just stop wasting my time and no longer apply to these types of jobs.
Now I am sure they will say " We just didn't think you were a good fit for our corporate culture" but what they are really saying is we only want recent grads that we can underpay and mold our own way and our insurance company says you will cost us more than Bobby who is 24.
Look at the the opposite big box store we all know. They hire teens or retired so they don't have to pay benefits.
Have you noticed the same trends? If you disagree great I would love to hear you are that guy who is 50 working at tech start up company.
Recently I began to wonder whether my age (59) has something to do with the dearth of responses. I realized that all someone has to do is go to Intelius with a name and city, and you get their age, relatives, etc. And another website even gives up address for free.
So I went on a campaign to expunge myself from all these 'people search' websites, and have gotten about halfway through. One thing I've found is that about half use LexisNexis as a source, and they will not opt you out except in the very restrictive circumstances laid out by the FCRA. So I am in the process of setting up one of those circumstances.
I'm going to look like a hole in the wall by the time I'm done...
This has the added bonus of eliminating junk mail as well. But don't expect former classmates to be able to find you, unless you register with the alumni association, or post drunken pictures on Facebook with all privacy settings off!
Look at the ages, gender and race of the people at the company doing similar work and if you don't fit that demographic your chances of being hired is very small.
Hiring is like casting a play, a movie or TV show. Do you think people in their forties would be chosen if Friends were recast for 2012? Everyone has a certain set of opportunities given to them based on their race, sex, appearace and age. That is life!
Recently I began to wonder whether my age (59) has something to do with the dearth of responses. I realized that all someone has to do is go to Intelius with a name and city, and you get their age, relatives, etc. And another website even gives up address for free.
So I went on a campaign to expunge myself from all these 'people search' websites, and have gotten about halfway through. One thing I've found is that about half use LexisNexis as a source, and they will not opt you out except in the very restrictive circumstances laid out by the FCRA. So I am in the process of setting up one of those circumstances.
I'm going to look like a hole in the wall by the time I'm done...
This has the added bonus of eliminating junk mail as well. But don't expect former classmates to be able to find you, unless you register with the alumni association, or post drunken pictures on Facebook with all privacy settings off!
On Linkedin I think it would be easy to deduct someone's age based on their work history. On mine I put down the year I graduated and then removed it. I initially thought somoeone would appreciate my 14 years of work history, but not so much any more.
Yup, I have, and I think it's disgusting. Employers are operating with the same playbook as life insurance salesmen. You'll get hired if you are deemed to be low on cost and benefits. Businesses love the recently college educated because they are more likely to still be in the mode to take instruction, lump on a lot more work than sustainable, are more likely to look for or know shortcuts in gettting the same results and will work for considerably less.
Because this has taken a stronger position to the forefront in hiring the last few years, you can kind of get the idea that alot of businesses had no idea of the impending recession, because stuff like this is a huge sign that they are trying really hard to maintain pre-recession income flows coming in, even at the expense of the future. To me, that tells me that the biggest hinderance to bussiness is the owners who employ this type of shenanigans. Maybe if these guys get out of the way, we'd be better off.
The industry I worked in not only did not hire 50 + they would suddenly discover they were incompetent (after 20 years) and begin to write them up and terminate them.
I came in for an interview after only listing ten years of experience on my resume and not putting my graduation dates on my resume. The very young looking "late 20 something" manager took one look at me and frowned. She must have been disappointed I was so old. She cut the interview down to as short as she possibly could without being embarrassing. Then she asked me to fill out a form that asked for my High School Graduation Date and my date of birth for a background investigation. I tried putting in just the month and date only, no year. She looked at it and said, "you forgot to put in the year of your birth." I told it it was illegal to ask for a date of birth or how old an applicant is. She frowned, got prickly and quickly escorted me out of her office. I never heard from her again.
The industry I worked in not only did not hire 50 + they would suddenly discover they were incompetent (after 20 years) and begin to write them up and terminate them.
Sounds like a certain retail establishment that expects more (out of people) and pays less.
I came in for an interview after only listing ten years of experience on my resume and not putting my graduation dates on my resume. The very young looking "late 20 something" manager took one look at me and frowned. She must have been disappointed I was so old. She cut the interview down to as short as she possibly could without being embarrassing. Then she asked me to fill out a form that asked for my High School Graduation Date and my date of birth for a background investigation. I tried putting in just the month and date only, no year. She looked at it and said, "you forgot to put in the year of your birth." I told it it was illegal to ask for a date of birth or how old an applicant is. She frowned, got prickly and quickly escorted me out of her office. I never heard from her again.
I am old enough to be her father.
Sorry to hear that. I am close to reporting a similar mindset company to EEOC, not that it will do much good. They asked for the same thing and this is a mature high tech company. All under the pretense of a background check. I actually wonder if they could run a complete background just on my DL#. I get the need to do one since I would be in outside sales, but balantly asking me for me age I was suprised.
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