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Old 09-08-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What if you used to live in an area and still have that area's local #, but left the state for another job, but now want to move back? Do they even take the time to put 2 and 2 together by looking at your phone #?
The phone number no longer matters. Lots of people have cell numbers that have nothing to do with their local area code.

They look at the address. No address on the resume? That raises a flag. PO Box on the resume? That's a smaller flag. But ultimately, EVERY applicant is going to have to complete an application. And these days, so many, many companies do this online. The application is completed online, with the resume and cover letter as an attachment. Don't even think about lying on the application - read the small print at the bottom. They can fire you at any time if you misrepresent anything.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So our question is this: If she puts in a cover letter that she already has living arrangements in Colorado (I've been here for fifteen years, it's not likely I'm leaving anytime soon), and could be in state quickly (after giving the standard two-week notice to her current employer), would this 'help' her any? (She has considered just saving up her money for a few months, quitting her job, and moving out here and then applying, but she'd prefer to be employed before coming out here to avoid being a burden on me.) Since you work in HR, what are your thoughts on this?
I would say yes, but not much. She still has no particular skills, right?

A better plan would be for her to take her next vacation to see you. When she knows the dates, but before she leaves, she needs to Set up appointments with potential contacts. (see my prior post, please). Get her onto linked in and make some connections.

Then, she can get a feel for what's out there and make a decision about quitting her job. She might even turn something up with one of those appointments and some networking. Meeting someone in person, someone who is pro-actively making what she wants happen, instead of just emailing resumes, is likely to be an attractive candidate.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The field you're in may be an issue. I always land out of state jobs. For one put your resume on a job site. Out down your target areas where you don't mind working. Generally recruiters from all over the country will call you in that case. As far as the interview is concerned, a lot of people do Skype interviews as well. If they need you to be there in person, you have savings.

The issue is that you find jobs, when they key is having jobs find you.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I would say yes, but not much. She still has no particular skills, right?

A better plan would be for her to take her next vacation to see you. When she knows the dates, but before she leaves, she needs to Set up appointments with potential contacts. (see my prior post, please). Get her onto linked in and make some connections.

Then, she can get a feel for what's out there and make a decision about quitting her job. She might even turn something up with one of those appointments and some networking. Meeting someone in person, someone who is pro-actively making what she wants happen, instead of just emailing resumes, is likely to be an attractive candidate.
She's a graphic artist, but we've both been hearing about people with marketable skills having trouble getting out-of-state jobs, so that's where the concern came up.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The field you're in may be an issue. I always land out of state jobs. For one put your resume on a job site. Out down your target areas where you don't mind working. Generally recruiters from all over the country will call you in that case. As far as the interview is concerned, a lot of people do Skype interviews as well. If they need you to be there in person, you have savings.

The issue is that you find jobs, when they key is having jobs find you.
This is true for certain professions. I don't think a graphic artist is going to experience this, but I'd certainly encourage her to try (though she needs to recognize that her current employer may find her resume, too). That said, I would imagine that graphic arts is an area where networking would be fairly easy.

Did you contact the school where you received your graphic arts education? That would be my first phone call on Monday morning, to inquire how they might be able to help her network - NOT help her find a job.

Have her get involved with whatever professional groups exist where she lives now that have other people in her industry. Contacts, networking, get her face out there. Forget about resume's.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:13 PM
 
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Hi,
I'm in a similar situation, but am fortunate that I am taking a telecommute job with me, and spending the $$ to rent a temporary place in the new State. It will be a juggling act, but it's the only way to do it, for me. It's just incredibly difficult to get a job in another State, especially now. I would absolutely leave off the mention of paying for your relocation, in your cover letter. Use a "google number" for your phone number, and leave off your address. If you are absolutely available to interview at a moment's notice, then there is no reason to bring anything up in the cover letter. In your resume, put the names and dates of your employment, but not the city.

I use a google phone number, and this has not been a problem. In fact, I've had several phone interviews, and offers to interview, but wasn't ready to move on it yet. If you're on Linkedin (if your career position is the type that would benefit from it,) you can try to network in the new area.

Employers are just not that keen on relocating applicants, because it so often doesn't work out. Even if they don't pay for it, it's the cost of training and hiring. You'll have to ask yourself if someone called you with an interview offer, on Monday.. can you go? I've had that happen a few times, when someone called and wanted me to be there the next day (the other problem with applying from a distance.) Mostly leave off all reference to relocating, and be sure that it's not your cover letter and resume that is holding you back. See if you can get some feedback on that. Also, I'm not sure what made you choose your new place, but do you know anyone there at all that you can network with? Best of luck!! I know how tough that can be.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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The phone number no longer matters. Lots of people have cell numbers that have nothing to do with their local area code.

They look at the address. No address on the resume? That raises a flag. PO Box on the resume? That's a smaller flag. But ultimately, EVERY applicant is going to have to complete an application. And these days, so many, many companies do this online. The application is completed online, with the resume and cover letter as an attachment. Don't even think about lying on the application - read the small print at the bottom. They can fire you at any time if you misrepresent anything.
My question had to do with someones response saying they only hire local because non locals are more likely to leave after a few years. My point is that if you used to live somewhere, but now want to return back. Does that make a difference because you used to be local and are now moving back.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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Charlotte to Phoenix
You are going to the wrong state. You can't just look at unemployment rate, but is jobs being created in that state or is the unemployed just giving up/moving away.

Even tough the population has increased by 6%, hardly any jobs has been created in Arizona
https://www.google.co.nz/publicdata/...l=en&ind=false
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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To expand on the phone # idea, you can also get a local address. Sign up for a Mail Boxes Etc. account in that city and they will give you a physical address there. They will forward all of your mail to where you presently live. Put the local Mail Boxes, etc. address on your resume. Voila, you are a local candidate!
You can get a Skype number with your choice of area code.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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Plus, we figured with her luck, they'd say, "Can you come in for an interview in an hour?" and she'd be stuck having to explain why she can't.

This is the dumbest question I would ever hear from a prospective employer. Come in an hour? I sure would not want to work for that employer who would call me on saturday 8 am morning and ask me if i can come in an hour.
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