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since the govt budget is up in the air many private world jobs are this way.
most of the old timers that are running companies think they need to spend 70 hrs a week working, well thats fine, but they also get paid way more. at 50k per year you should take on a job where you dont have to work past 8 a day, its just not worth it in the long run.
everyone is paid by the hour, once you get past 40 per week your hourly rate goes down, this is how the companies take advantage of salaried employees.
work smarter, not longer or harder.
I work with the Fed government. Have you looked at the GS pay scale? What government job can you get without a college degree that pays $50,000 a yr? I'm not talking about after 20 yrs and you work up to $50,000. I hate when people just quote stuff they know nothing about. With no college education, you are coming in at a GS-2 through GS-4. Engineers coming in at a GS-5/7 with a BS degree. So show me the uneducated government worker coming in at $50,000 yearly.
I work with the Fed government. Have you looked at the GS pay scale? What government job can you get without a college degree that pays $50,000 a yr? I'm not talking about after 20 yrs and you work up to $50,000. I hate when people just quote stuff they know nothing about. With no college education, you are coming in at a GS-2 through GS-4. Engineers coming in at a GS-5/7 with a BS degree. So show me the uneducated government worker coming in at $50,000 yearly.
i use to work for the USACE, a GS13 had no BS degree started as a GS1, he worked his way up the ladder, of course he was a less desirable GS13, EOC.
many engineers come in as a 7 with a BS, 9 with MS, 11 with PHD, now that the budget sucks this is no longer true. I left for the private world due to furloughs and sequestration.
I realize that it is popular to criticize anything government, but you are simply incorrect.
Virtually everybody earning 50k plus where I work puts in more than 40. If you include after hours emails, working on projects over the weekend and that type of thing, I doubt I could find a single person working under 45.
I am not saying that we are overworked, but I am saying that the stereotype of 9-5 government workers who leave the office with a clean desk and no responsibilities is wrong.
Many of these are more than a 40 hour week. Also, some of these (like ES teacher) don't pay 50k or even close to it.
Really? Elementary school teachers make $50k in some areas.
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Here are some that won't do over 40 hours depending on which way you go… For instance, a SLP in the school system has a lot of paperwork (billing Medicaid), whereas one in the clinic has office managers to do that stuff; therefore, they have set hours. If a client doesn't show up, then they have that window open.
What is an "absurd amount" of education? Bachelor's degree? Master's? IMO, a Master's degree is pretty standard for a comfortable professional-level job these days. I would say going to school for longer than you would have to go for a Master's - say, a JD, MD, or Phd - just to find a good 40 hr/week job, would be my definition of "absurd." It would also be foolish, since lawyers, doctors, and academics typically work MUCH longer than 40 hrs and are at the pinnacle of professions where work concerns consume social/family/home life (my partner has a PhD, I know what I'm talking about).
Personally, I got a Master's degree and then landed a government job paying ~$50k per year with my only experience being internships during grad school. Six years and a bumpy ride through the recession later, I'm earning in the $70s, with a benefit plan I would estimate to be worth another $40k or so (employer paid retirement and medical/dental/life premiums), plus guaranteed step increases and COLAs. For all that, I think about work from exactly 8:30 am to exactly 4:30 pm and that's it. I read novels on the train home while everyone else is checking emails and whatnot. Sometimes I have to stay late but I can always flex my schedule for that. The only downside is that I'm in a high COL area, but even in a low COL area I'd be making in the 50s by now.
since the govt budget is up in the air many private world jobs are this way.
most of the old timers that are running companies think they need to spend 70 hrs a week working, well thats fine, but they also get paid way more. at 50k per year you should take on a job where you dont have to work past 8 a day, its just not worth it in the long run.
everyone is paid by the hour, once you get past 40 per week your hourly rate goes down, this is how the companies take advantage of salaried employees.
work smarter, not longer or harder.
Agree with this.
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