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View Poll Results: should there be a minimum tip level mandated by law.
Yes, if a tip is given it should be at least 15% by law. 5 6.85%
Yes, but 15% is too high 1 1.37%
Yes, but 15% is too low 1 1.37%
No, the percentage should strictly be decided by the tipper 66 90.41%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-09-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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No, don't change it.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Where the sun always shines
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How about, THE END OF TIPPING, and people start accepting what they get paid per hour or get another job.

Restauraunts,bars, barbers, mechanics, cab drivers, NYC building staff......tipping has gotten totoally out of order.

And P.S. By law, places with wait/bar staff are supposd to pay at least minimum wage if the tips dont come up too that much. But most people fear for their jobs and dont speak up on this
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Pay wait staff a fair wage. Let tips be for exceptional service. This way the really good ones will still get rewarded for good service and removes the uncertainly from people's wages.

As far as encouraging bad service this would be taken care of like any other employee. Do a bad job and you get fired.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Pay wait staff a fair wage. Let tips be for exceptional service. This way the really good ones will still get rewarded for good service and removes the uncertainly from people's wages.

As far as encouraging bad service this would be taken care of like any other employee. Do a bad job and you get fired.
All of the above... when I waited tables I hit both ends of the tip scale, from a note that said 'you should tip me for putting up with your crappy service'...to a $200.00 tip simply for providing a rose in a bud vase for someones Anniversary.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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As far as encouraging bad service this would be taken care of like any other employee. Do a bad job and you get fired.
I know a good number of locations that don't seem to. All of which seem to be in the same family of resturaunts, that being Darden. They own Red Lobster, Olive Garden and Lone Star Steakhouse. Bad management wont fire a bad staff.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Liminal Space
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Tipping is by definition an informal payment, as such, this law would be unenforceable. If someone left a 10% tip and was charged for doing so, they could just say that it wasn't a tip, they just accidentally left some change on the table.

Here's an interesting article about an upscale restaurant in San Diego that had a "no tips" policy. The owner claims that the practice of tipping is not only unfair and insulting to workers, but results in worse service for customers.
I got rid of gratuities at my restaurant, and our service only got better.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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I'm not a tipped employee, but I'd rather just get rid of tips. Increase the cost of food by 15% or whatever.
You must be an owner
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I know a good number of locations that don't seem to. All of which seem to be in the same family of resturaunts, that being Darden. They own Red Lobster, Olive Garden and Lone Star Steakhouse. Bad management wont fire a bad staff.
Same as any workplace. Eventually people start complaining and stop coming back. It will work itself out one way or another.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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What would be the point in that? You'll pay the same amount at the end of the day, and plus tips go directly to a waiter's pocket, and some of them make as little as 3-4 dollars an hour. Hell I know a lot of waiters that are only waiters because of the tip.


People need to stop being so damn stingy.
No one working at a legally operated establishment makes just $r per hour. The point is that it would be out of sight.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: NW Philly Burbs
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Why wouldn't people just push for higher wages and forget about the tip if that is what they were after? Seems like a very complicated solution to a simple problem. Just treat them like we treat any other worker. Then we can have tips be 100% optional and only used for exceptional service.
This is what I would vote for. Other countries operate this way, and it's MUCH less complicated for everybody!
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