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Old 06-22-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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So your response to my question is it could lead to identity theft.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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yes among other things. what century is this?
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I just wanted to be clear. I don't believe identity theft is a risk by simply showing a potential employer a checkstub, but I don't worry when employers want me to fill out forms with my birthdate and SS# either.

To each their own.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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yes among other things. what century is this?
ROTFL.

You should be more worried about all the thousands of times you use credit cards versus one paycheck stub.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Temporarily, in Limerick
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I'd conveniently forget to bring a paystub, too, but how does one graciously decline revealing previous salary in an interview? I had a recent interview in which my current salary was one of the 1st 3 q's... never had it come up so quickly before in an interview.

I was caught off guard, talked around it a bit, said I was aware of what this job was paying (it was stated as a firm wage, no negotiating... okay, got it & I need a job now, so if it were offered, I'd have taken it), but she kept asking, 'How much?' After 1/2-dozen times, I finally replied, 'A bit more, but I'm aware of what you're offering & am fine with that'... it's a lot more, actually, but I wanted to get her to stop & as stated, I need a job now... that didn't work. Her face hardened like the Wicked Witch of the West, she slammed the folder shut that had my resume in it, had no further eye contact with me & continued to badger me with, 'How much?'. She was so hostilely rude & I knew I had NO chance of getting the job, that I just smiled & said nothing. She stood up & said it was great meeting me (still no eye contact) & angrily escorted me out, complete with a BIG & exhale to the large open office of her co-workers & threw up her hands & began a mini-fit, which I caught as I glanced back upon exiting. Great HR Director, yeah? Actually, it was a bit embarrassing to be treated so unprofessionally in front of her co-workers.

If it were such an important q... I don't know why she didn't conduct a quick phone interview beforehand to ask that q? In any event, it's over with, but... like the OP, how do I avoid answering this q graciously in the next interview? What does one say?? 'I'd prefer to discuss salary once an offer is made' or does that sound sarcastic & unprofessional? What does everyone else say?
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Metro NYC
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I have an interview for a job on Monday (which I know I will NEVER get). On the check-list of items that I need to take to the interview it included a prior pay check stub. Why would the interviewer need a prior pay check stub??

-Cheers.
They want to tie the salary offer for the chosen candidate to as small an increase over their last rate of pay as they can get away with (my HR peeps tell me this usually ranges from 3 - 10%). No way in hell should you fork over this information, especially on a first interview. A company knows what it is willing to pay for a position and if the interview process yields a candidate fits the bill and the firm is otherwise willing to pay them their requested salary, their prior comp is irrelevant IMO. If you hand this info over, it could end up in the hands of some data broker to which other companies you may wish to apply to in the future may subscribe. It could then bite you in the ankles down the line.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Ask this company for a list of current employee salaries.
+1. It is none of their business. I would run for the hills
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I'd conveniently forget to bring a paystub, too, but how does one graciously decline revealing previous salary in an interview? I had a recent interview in which my current salary was one of the 1st 3 q's... never had it come up so quickly before in an interview.
This always seems to be an awkward question for everyone, even the recruiter. In my experience i was always happy to share my expectations with them. i had a number in mind that I thought was fair and until my situation became desperate, that's what it would take to hire me. I think we all know what we want to be paid, so just say it. if its reasonable then you should hold out for it. I know one reason they sometimes ask is to make sure up front that you are both in the "ballpark" of a range. better to find out early that the particular job won't pay what you want because its outside the range.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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Companies ask for a paycheck stub, to substitute for calling your present employer to verify you work there.

They have two choices. 1: Ask for a pay check stub. 2: Call current employer as reference.

They want to know, if you are telling them the truth or a lie about your current employer. Asking for the paycheck stub, does not give your current employer notice you are planning on leaving, but a call for a reference does and may cost you your job if you are not hired.

Look how many people on this thread alone, said LIE to the potential employer. So many people LIE to potential employers, they are forced to use tactics such as this request for paycheck stub, to know how truthful the application is.

They want to know if you are honest and trustworthy with the experience and work history you claim, before they take time and expense to interview you. They don't have time to waste interviewing liars.
Not quite. The company calls the current employer without permission they will have a lawsuit on their hands.

Because no one in their right mind wants their current employer to know they're looking.

What's next? Can we see the results of your last blood work, we need to see your latest 401K statement, what is your PIN code for you ATM card.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:46 AM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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i have never EVER had a current employer called "for a reference". EVER. I say "it's a confid job search" and that's it: they don't touch this one issue. what planet are some of these people living on? "call current employer for reference" ? ? ? Not in my lifetime.
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