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Old 10-16-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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But... but... if you quit at JJ's...... why are you just side-stepping to another similar job with similar pay? I guess it would be a pain if you worked at JJ's all through your MBA and landed a corporate job at Subway right after graduation. But seriously.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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But... but... if you quit at JJ's...... why are you just side-stepping to another similar job with similar pay?
To get a better manager? Because the other place is an easier commute? Because you get sick of smelling ham?

Why should you have to have a big reason to quit? If a business wants to retain experienced employees, it should have to pay them better than they would get if they started at the bottom at a competitor.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Yea so I heard this story on 92.3 KTAR here in Phoenix Arizona and thought I would search it out, post it and see what you guys think. I have eaten at Jimmy Johns before. But, never again!
I think anytime you see a dubious website with a politically charged title, you should probably take it with a grain of salt.

It's like believing some right wing website with some story about "liberals".

Then again, most people don't tend to question things that enforces thier worldview.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I think anytime you see a dubious website with a politically charged title, you should probably take it with a grain of salt.
Yep, that's Critical Thinking 101.

Isn't life too short to get worked up over a sandwich chain's aspirational paperwork? It just seems petty.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think anytime you see a dubious website with a politically charged title, you should probably take it with a grain of salt.

It's like believing some right wing website with some story about "liberals".

Then again, most people don't tend to question things that enforces thier worldview.
This is a widely reported, well-sourced story.

Here's a link (paywalled) in the not-all-at-liberal Wall Street Journal.

Litigation Over Noncompete Clauses Is Rising - WSJ
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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Most non-competes I've been asked or required to sign as a condition of employment were completely unenforceable on their face.

The key issue is that you must be compensated to the value of what you have signed away.

If there's no compensation for your side of the non-compete, it's invalid, or if the compensation is way back of what it could be worth, such as a token minimal payment ... there's no contract.

The only places I've seen non-competes have real meaning is in the states where an intellectual property was compromised by an employee leaving a company with a sizable payment upon their leaving a company ... in states like WA, where there's a number of IT companies with employee turnover and properly written and paid non-competes can be enforced.

I've signed non-competes as a manufacturer's rep and left a company to rep for another. Sure enough, the former company came after me for going into the same line of work, but I was an "independent" rep. My clients were my clients that I continued to call upon, not the manufacturers. Nor did they offer any compensation for my non-compete. They hired a high profile lawyer and dragged me into court. I told the judge the non-compete contract had no compensation for me and that I hadn't been paid for that. Took less time to tell that to the judge than it's taking to write this up. Case dismissed. Any contract must have value received on both sides of the agreement or it's not valid.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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what you all think of this?

Right-wing Jimmy John
A sub shop with a non-compete? Puleeze.

This wouldn't even hold up on Judge Judy.
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Absolutely stupid, and unenforceable. How can you keep a minimum wage worker from working somewhere else ? It isn't like they know company secrets or anything.

I sent an email to the local JJ telling them I will never eat there again. Not sure if they care, but I feel better.

Don
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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It isn't like they know company secrets or anything.
Seriously, I've only eaten there a few times, but I'm probably just as informed as their sandwich makers are on how to make one of their subs.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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This engineer signed many and never gave one thought to it. I jumped ship and worked for other facilities/contractors doing the exact same thing I did a month prior on several occasions. I had TS clearances as well.

Hint - always take a month off between jobs.
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