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Old 01-28-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Gets back to that time-honored rule. If you're early you're on time, if you're on time you're late and if you're late you're fired.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: GA
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Yeah, I'm wondering. Our headquarters is in another city in the region, so it's possible it was conducted there. For the record, dude strolls in today 1.5 hours late. *clap*
Today would be his last day
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'd have been waiting for him when he walked in today and escorted him right back out.

3 days in a row over an hour late on your FIRST 3 days is completely unacceptable.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Do you really think that is likely?

On day 2 the HM should have talked to this guy and told him this was unacceptable. On day three, I would issue the final zero tolerance warning. One more lateness of more than 10 minutes in the next 30 days leads to immediate dismissal. A pattern of lateness of less than 10 minutes would also lead to dismissal.
For years I used to show up late for work 1 hour to 90 minutes tardy. Thing is, I'm 3X more productive than my colleagues so my lateness was tolerated. When i got a manager that enforced employees being on time I slowed down my production to LESS than my colleagues. You got to look at the whole picture.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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For years I used to show up late for work 1 hour to 90 minutes tardy. Thing is, I'm 3X more productive than my colleagues so my lateness was tolerated. When i got a manager that enforced employees being on time I slowed down my production to LESS than my colleagues. You got to look at the whole picture.
Every employee that I have had who claimed to be a super performer was actually substandard. Plus, at this point we have zero evidence that he will be productive, while we have olenty of evidence that he is a flake who cannot plan and is inconsiderate of his coworkers and employer.

Part of the entire picture is understanding the impact of one employees actions on the company as a whole. Allowing one person to have a flexible schedule while not allowing this for the rest of the workplace is going to seriously effect morale.

I have already taken into account the fact that the employee in question is an IT person. Many roles in IT are flexible in regards to time worked, so I would be willing to give the guy in the OP some allowance for misunderstanding attendance requirements. This is reflected in my theoretical tolerance for his being late a third day, rather than simply firing him on day two.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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Today would be his last day

It is entirely possible. Depends on what was discussed with him on day two.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Altadena, CA
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Yeah, I'm wondering. Our headquarters is in another city in the region, so it's possible it was conducted there. For the record, dude strolls in today 1.5 hours late. *clap*
I would guess he has deeper problems to not have the common sense and decency to show up to his new job very late, 3 days in a row. Please keep us updated as it would be interesting to see if your company is the type of organization to allow this type of unprofessional behavior.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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For years I used to show up late for work 1 hour to 90 minutes tardy. Thing is, I'm 3X more productive than my colleagues so my lateness was tolerated. When i got a manager that enforced employees being on time I slowed down my production to LESS than my colleagues. You got to look at the whole picture.

True, but that whole picture shows signs of immaturity, so you may have won the battle but you would have lost the war.

It makes me wonder about hiring managers when I hear stories like the ones from Unixfed and Veuvegirl. Surely they didn't begin their attendance issues and poor attitudes with this job. I would have thought in both cases they would have been let go at least once.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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For years I used to show up late for work 1 hour to 90 minutes tardy. Thing is, I'm 3X more productive than my colleagues so my lateness was tolerated. When i got a manager that enforced employees being on time I slowed down my production to LESS than my colleagues. You got to look at the whole picture.

You did this from Day One?
Or did you feel things out first and see what the working norm for your working environment is or what your manager will tolerate?
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: NYC
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You did this from Day One?
Or did you feel things out first and see what the working norm for your working environment is or what your manager will tolerate?

good point.
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