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The way I read the OP's question is: Does the boss have the right to know the details of the medical procedure? I would say there is a right to privacy here. A note from the Dr. confirming the expected time off needed would be reasonable if using Sick Time however IMO.
There has to be some sort of privacy law out there that protects employees from having their boss hound them as to why a day off is needed for an outpatient procedure. I'm pretty sure that crosses way over the line to ask that question and I feel it is a violation of MY privacy. If there isn't, then there should be because there is no reason my boss needs to know what I do on my days off or how I spend my days off. I really like to see her fired for this because I'm tired of it.
Tell the boss it is none of his business what part of your body is having a personal procedure done.
If you have already told them you are having surgery that one is on you since you volunteered the information in regards to what you are going to do on your day off.
All you need to do is request the day off unless you will have more than a day or so recovery time.
Then obviously you will need a statement from your Physician that you are having a surgical procedure done and you will require 5 days off after surgery or whatever amount of time it is.
There is no need for the exact procedure to be documented anywhere for your personnel file at your place of employment.
Sorry everybody but this is ridicolous.
Under no way, neither here in the US nor in Europe or somewhere else, a manager should be allowed to ask such things.
Such thing will never happen in Europe though.
It's simply ridicolous.
The way I read the OP's question is: Does the boss have the right to know the details of the medical procedure? I would say there is a right to privacy here. A note from the Dr. confirming the expected time off needed would be reasonable if using Sick Time however IMO.
I see your point, but if I have a medical procedure being done (just did this last year, and had a 3 week recovery time - they wanted verification! ), FYI, I gave my employer exactly what the lab results were and and what the procedure entailed before the procedure (and is wasn't sexy, if you know what I'm saying ), because there were risks, and some potential I would be out significantly longer than expected if things didn't go right.
The rat bastard sent me a get well card, a box of goodies a week later, and called to check on my progress about once a week while I was recovering, asking if there was anything I needed or if there were something the company could do to help.
I don't think the boss wanting some sort of medical verification that a medical issue really existed is out of line. Asking specific, detailed questions about the procedure certainly is, so it depends on what was actually said in the conversation.
"Why do you need the day off?"
"Medical issue."
"Well we need more information or a physicians/medical provider's note for us to provide paid sick leave."
So far, no problem in my book.
Prying into specifics of the medical procedure? Huge problem in my book, even though I did supply that info to my boss on my own volition (but that was my choice and option, not my bosses).
It's best to avoid the use of "fair" and "unfair" when making arguments, since there is no definition of what is "fair". It is all in the eye of the beholder. Usually "unfair" is used when demand for a resource exceeds supply. No matter how that resource is allocated, somebody is going to lose, and claim "unfair".
I'll make it simpler still. It's childish and immature.
The way I read the OP's question is: Does the boss have the right to know the details of the medical procedure? I would say there is a right to privacy here. A note from the Dr. confirming the expected time off needed would be reasonable if using Sick Time however IMO.
Suppose you don't want the company to know the reason and type of your illness, yet your required doctor's note is coming from a specialist. Do you really want to bring a note in from your oncologist, your gynecologist, your psychologist, your urologist, your proctologist or any specialist for which the title gives some information?
Or maybe because you want to hide this very personal information, does this mean that in addition to your specialist, you now also go see your GP in order to get a 'cover' excuse?
This is all too much because some company or manager feels the need to stick their nose in your business?
Privacy stops being private the minute you tell one person who has no medical need to know.
Companies should just give sick time and leave it up to their adult employees to take care of their own day to day medical needs - privately. If someone comes in with a need for extended leave then it is relatively easy for a GP to write that note saying nothing except that the employee will be out for x days/weeks.
Better yet, companies should make general policies regarding specific time ranges and the consequences of being out for each period without the need for a specific note.
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Tell the boss it is none of his business what part of your body is having a personal procedure done. If you have already told them you are having surgery that one is on you since you volunteered the information in regards to what you are going to do on your day off.
All you need to do is request the day off unless you will have more than a day or so recovery time.
Then obviously you will need a statement from your Physician that you are having a surgical procedure done and you will require 5 days off after surgery or whatever amount of time it is.
There is no need for the exact procedure to be documented anywhere for your personnel file at your place of employment.
Your boss is just being nosy.
Thank you. I don't know why everyone is ignoring the fact that the OP volunteered the information in the first place.
And for those getting their knickers in a twist over convextech's post, he mentioned it was a problem employee. If someone is abusing the system, why wouldn't they be subject to more scrutiny?
Yes I understand your view point and remember those who can't do , Manage, just as soon as they pry their lips loose. Hahahaa.
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Man I'm glad I'm practically my own boss now, I dont have to answer to anyone about anything besides the quality of my work. Before this though, I dealt with people like you, who thought they were entitled to a reason for everything...I would just lie and tell them what they needed to hear. What someone doesn't know won't hurt them. I never got caught or anything, just kept my mouth shut....
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), FYI, I gave my employer exactly what the lab results were and and what the procedure entailed before the procedure (and is wasn't sexy, if you know what I'm saying 
), because there were risks, and some potential I would be out significantly longer than expected if things didn't go right.
