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Old 04-18-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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I would call sooner rather than later. That way they can get someone else. There is no issue with changing your mind. In good faith you accepted what you thought was one type of position and it turns out to be another.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Restrain kids? Is this a sped classroom for children with mental health issues by any chance? If they are older you could end up injured yourself.

This is classic case of job description changing during the interview process. Don't feel guilty about turning it down.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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Restrain kids? Is this a sped classroom for children with mental health issues by any chance? If they are older you could end up injured yourself.

This is classic case of job description changing during the interview process. Don't feel guilty about turning it down.
No this is not sped children or at least I was told there were no sped in this setting. This was just a child who was unwilling to listen and was kicking things, so the director ended up having to restrain him, not sure of his age as she didn't get into specifics.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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I would just call and say that you are sorry but you must respectfully decline the position. It's business.
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Can you visit the program to see it in action on a typical day? Maybe there are a lot of kids at the beginning of your shift but almost all are gone near the end of the shift. Right after school you may have 21 children, but an hour and a half later only have 15 children, and your last half hour only have 6 students.

IMHO, most after school programs are pretty laid back and easy. The schools in my area have snack time, then "open gym time" or playing on the playground for the first 45 minutes or so and then quiet "homework time", art or table game time for the next 45 minutes or so and after that "free choice" activites.

I bet that it was an extremely unusual situation to have to restrain a regular education student.

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Old 04-18-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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No this is not sped children or at least I was told there were no sped in this setting. This was just a child who was unwilling to listen and was kicking things, so the director ended up having to restrain him, not sure of his age as she didn't get into specifics.
Using physical force on an unruly child is lawsuit material in most states.

If this was in fact a normal child, why not just give them a timeout.

Who knows maybe you will be the one the director restrains once you get on the job, if that is their philosophy of teaching.
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Old 04-18-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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Using physical force on an unruly child is lawsuit material in most states.

If this was in fact a normal child, why not just give them a timeout.

Who knows maybe you will be the one the director restrains once you get on the job, if that is their philosophy of teaching.
I definitely would never restrain a child in this setting to much liability for me.

The director told me that he refused to go into timeout and was throwing and kicking things. I got the feeling from talking to her this child is consistently causing issues and they have been trying to get him removed from the program but have so far been unsuccessful. All I know is my neighbor who has lived in this area since she was a teenager and at one time used this program for her oldest child, told me Friday that she would never leave her kids there unless she had no other options.

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Old 04-18-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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Default follow your gut instinct and conscience

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I definitely would never restrain a child in this setting to much liability for me.

The director told me that he refused to go into timeout and was throwing and kicking things. I got the feeling from talking to her this child is consistently causing issues and they have been trying to get him removed from the program but have so far been unsuccessful. All I know is my neighbor who has lived in this area since she was a teenager and at one time used this program for her oldest child, told me Friday that <b>she would never leave her kids there unless she had no other options.</b>
There's your answer right there. I think you know this all ready.
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Old 04-18-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I agree, follow your gut. All in all, IT IS NOT WORTH IT. Save yourself the heartache.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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It really bothered me to hear her say she had to restrain the child to control him, that is not something I am comfortable doing, there is just to much liability and considering I would be part-time and minimum wage, I wouldn't really expect the school district to have my back if a parent got upset.

Then don't restrain a child. How often would it be necessary. Maybe she only grabbed him by the hand to prevent him from running away. Like when you grab a hand of a child if they are about to run into the street.

Sounds like you might be seeing visions of "restrain" that might be more intense than what really takes place and probably only comes into play on very rare occasions. And maybe you learn how to take the child by the hand, calmly, and walk them away from a situation.

If a child is going bonkers, on a rare occasion (if at all) you can call for assistance from others at the school. Or come up with another way to get the child's attention.
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