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Old 01-01-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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That would change if marijuana ever becomes legal on the federal level.
Not necessarily. Companies can have stricter rules based on their risk analysis and liability. It is legal to drink but I know jobs where if you test above 0.0 you get sent home. It happens multiple times, you are gone

 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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I'd rather not be served by people who are blazed up on the job.
I'd be surprised if that train hadn't already left the station.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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I have a long time friend who works as a cashier for Jewel, an Albertson subsidiary in the greater Chicagoland area- same Union as Safeway. She's been with the company a few years and makes $8/ hr of which $1 goes towards union dues so in effect she earns less than Federal Minimum Wage. It's part time and schedules vary week to week which means it would be challenging to get another part time job. Fortunately, she does not need to work more hours.

According to her, senior cashiers have 20-30 years of experience and make $50-60k and get full time hours and benefits.

Baggers tend to be disabled and the store gets tax credits for employing them.

Turnover is chronic. How many people are willing to work for less than Minimum Wage when non- union retail and fast food in the area pays 12-20% more?

I have no idea why she continues to work at this company when she could make more elsewhere. Speculation on my part is that she has some serious self esteem issues and figures this is all she deserves.

Starting wage at my local Costco is $12 and change and provides benefits, subsidized insurance, vacation time, 401k and so on, to permanent part time employees. Most employees have been with the store since it opened and their wages have topped out. Turnover is negligible. While not unionized, it operates like a union shop. Seniority matters. Promotions come from within and across warehouses.

The union grocer in my area starts people off at $14 an hour, while the non union grocery caps people off at $14, and it takes a decade or more thru COL raises to get that. Nobody sticks around that long. Low wages and no benefits is what these companies want.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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Starting wage at my local Costco is $12 and change and provides benefits, subsidized insurance, vacation time, 401k and so on, to permanent part time employees. Most employees have been with the store since it opened and their wages have topped out. Turnover is negligible. While not unionized, it operates like a union shop. Seniority matters. Promotions come from within and across warehouses.
I wonder if Costco is on to something there?
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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I'd be surprised if that train hadn't already left the station.
This is true.I expect the workers of my local run down 7 Eleven to be high on the job. I can tolerate that, but not so much driving 70mph beside a blazed up truck driver.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That would change if marijuana ever becomes legal on the federal level.
Applicants and employees generally know when they will be tested. If they cannot abstain long enough to clear a test, they either have a problem or are not smart enough to abstain.

Some employers also test for nicotine and alcohol.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I wonder if Costco is on to something there?
Ya think?
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:54 AM
 
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I wonder if Costco is on to something there?
They serve a more affluent customer base. Also, they have a lot less employees but are way more productive than employees at other retail places. The business model can allow for better wages to be paid.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The union grocer in my area starts people off at $14 an hour, while the non union grocery caps people off at $14, and it takes a decade or more thru COL raises to get that. Nobody sticks around that long. Low wages and no benefits is what these companies want.
High turnover is a strategy used by some corporate employers to avoid a challenge of unionization.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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This generation has no work ethic. Millennials want it all without doing anything. They'll wise up when their parents finally throw them out of the house when they are in their 40's.
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