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Old 12-25-2016, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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I have saved searches for jobs in such fields as Environmental Science. I often get hits from Environmental Services Tech jobs. They are for janitors at the hospital.
I laughed at that as I have seen jobs I went after in hospitals and saw those jobs listed and thought "I could never do that" but finally clicked on one and just about died laughing when I read it...

But since I was going after medical equipment set up and delivery tech I didn't apply for them...
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Old 12-25-2016, 11:14 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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Actually, it is. My original point is being an engineer used to actually mean something. Nowadays, most people don't even think much of an engineer anymore because everyone is an engineer nowadays.
yup, most people just lump technicians as engineers. used to be abet would standerdize who could reasonably be titled as such.

theres a thread somewhere in here about the comcast engineer that installed their cable.

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Old 12-26-2016, 01:15 AM
 
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A few weeks ago, I went to a new job site out-of-state to take over a bridge project. It had just started a couple months when they lost the bridge engineer. With some incentives, they were able to convince me to go there to take over until they find someone else to take over it permanently. I have to live in a hotel room for the next 4-5 months or so.

Anyway, when I first went out there to look at my new project, one of the foremen came over. I introduced myself and told him I'm the new bridge engineer. He introduced himself and then told me he needed me to do some testing over there. Puzzled, I said again I'm the new bridge engineer. Puzzled, he said back yes and he needed me to go over there and take some soil density tests. I said again, no you don't understand I'm the new bridge engineer, meaning I'm your boss. Don't you guys have technicians to do these tests for you?

After the misunderstanding was cleared, it turned out down there in that state they call all the testers "engineers". I'm used to calling them test technicians.

Think about it for a moment. Garbage collectors are now sanitation engineers. Secretaries are administrative assistants or office managers. Door to door salesmen are account managers. Store clerks are product specialists. Cashiers are hospitality specialists. Toll booth collectors are now coin facilitation engineers. Try to guess what a petroleum distribution engineer does.

Heck, even customers are now called "guests".

With all the fancy titles flying around, are we creating a new generation of adult version of kids who got participation trophies?
Is this where credentials come into play?
P.Eng. versus 'engineering technologists', 'testers', and 'test technicians'?

HR is secretaries and office managers who grow their departments with layers of managers and administrators to administer pay and communications (answering telephone). Technologists are engineers by credentialing, but the glass ceiling is low.

If you give people a title of engineer, even when they are not actually an engineer, chances are they will impress friends and give sway. Is it surprising that they don't know where the boundaries are?
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Old 12-26-2016, 01:54 AM
 
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Anyone who works with children is now a "teacher". I remember my boss at a summer camp telling me to tell parents I was a certified teacher. Not only did I find that off putting, I found it bizarre my much older (like 35 and up) coworkers took this to mean they were actually teachers. A few people I've known have told their kid's daycare providers they're not teachers only to be told by the owner of the daycare, their title is teacher.

Just as anyone who works with food is now a chef. Um, no. You have to go to culinary scho
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Old 12-26-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Store clerks are product specialists.

Cashiers are hospitality specialists.

Heck, even customers are now called "guests".
I agree the titles have gotten ridiculous, but these 3 titles imo, are more for the customer or "guest" than the employee. Someone somewhere decided that "customer service specialist" sounds better than cashier when you have an angry customer who wants to speak with someone in charge.

It's all bs, no one is in charge these days and customer service is a joke.
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Old 12-26-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Are subs considered teachers?
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Worcester MA
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My predecessor called himself a "controller." To me, that is a gross exaggeration of the position and I don't feel comfortable using that title for myself. Someone suggested using "accounting manager", but I don't manage anyone. I am just calling myself "accountant" as I feel that adequately describes my role without distorting it.
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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Are subs considered teachers?
i think teachers need to be accredited in some way ?
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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i think teachers need to be accredited in some way ?
I'm asking because subs don't really do any teaching. They usually follow a plan left behind by the normal teacher. Most of the time, they just sit there as the kids do some kind of work sheet.
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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OMG yes yes and yes.

My company was bought by another company a few years ago, and they started changing all the job titles. We seriously do not know what these titles mean, and I mean NO CLUE. they make no sense. It's like the HR execs bought an HR for Dummies Handbook and just started renaming departments and positions. At one point our head exec sent an email out to try to explain them so they made sense. Wasn't too helpful, you could tell he was trying to pacify HR.

I had to work with IT to resolve a computer issue and he asked me what department I was in. I had no idea because of all the renaming. It made no sense.
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