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Old 01-15-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Life is unfair - John F. Kennedy.

There are several forms of unfairness in work competition. Some common types are when your coworker:

- makes more money than you, even when you have more years in at work or perform better.
- is a slacker so you're doing his or her work in addition to your own.
- is unfairly given more responsibility and authority than you are.
- also you're doing more work at the same rate of pay when your coworkers are laid off.

Those are common situations.

It'll be interesting to hear what happened in your case including if you were able to resolve the situation.
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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- Newly hired Idiots making 10-15k for more a year (than more experienced, higher performing employees with tenure) and they still can't manage to do the BASIC functions of the job after 6-8 months on the job and at best Weasle out of responsibility and every one else not even in the department have to pick up the slack for them and they seem completely immune to any consequences and those people's managers not even held responsible to get the people TRAINED (which they should already be after 6-8 months)

- Offsite bosses who serve no purpose and somehow manage to get paid a ton of money working 6 hour days while they ask those below them how to do certain aspects of the job when they should already know. 1000 emails going back and forth for basic issues that could be solved locally but 5-10 people need to give their opinions/assessments and then all you have is a garbled mess of confusion and the employees very confused on what the hell to do with the 5 different directives given.

Pissed off customers. Nothing is done about it. Loss of business. Nothing is done about it. Idiots making a ton of money that can't do basic job functions after 8 months on the job.. Nothing is done about it. High Turnover which is costly as hell. Nothing done about it.

And I'm sure this goes one at thousands of companies. Amazing they can even stay in business. Long term they probably don't though.

Yes life is unfair. Theres nothing really that can be done about that 100 percent completely. The workplace is unfair but it doesn't HAVE to be. If there was any damn accountability in the workplace (which there doesn't seem to be anymore)


If there was any accountability in the workplace, both in management and non management, you wouldn't have such an unfair, disorganized workplace.

But since so many idiots seem to be granted blanket immunity from ineptness and nonsense, the crap continues and business suffers

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Old 01-16-2017, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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Originally Posted by education explorer View Post
Life is unfair - John F. Kennedy.

There are several forms of unfairness in work competition. Some common types are when your coworker:

- makes more money than you, even when you have more years in at work or perform better.
- is a slacker so you're doing his or her work in addition to your own.
- is unfairly given more responsibility and authority than you are.
- also you're doing more work at the same rate of pay when your coworkers are laid off.

Those are common situations.

It'll be interesting to hear what happened in your case including if you were able to resolve the situation.


The bolded isn't necessarily unfair. It is the result of market change. For example, most don't stop to realize that when Person A hired on, the pay scale at the time was $50k/year. Fast forward 8 years and person B was hired on at $65k because that is now the market for that position. If Person A hired in at $50k and only received the standard 3% yearly COL adjustment they would only be at $61,493.69 where-as a new hire might come in the door at $65k.


This happens ALL the time in every position due to supply/demand in the market. What Person A needs to do is find a company that will hire them in based on the new market scale. They may find that they can now hire into a new company at $75k because they have more experience and can get hired on closer to the top of the pay scale. Once you lock into a payscale, every promotion or increase you get after that point is based upon the original pay scale you hired in under. It does not adjust for market.


Every company has slackers in it. Focus more on your ability and skill and less on them. They will eventually find themselves in a predicament when the company begins to evaluate why they are being paid to perform a job that isn't being performed.


Sometimes they are given more responsibility to either force them to shine, or to fail. Other times, we just don't like to admit that maybe this person is good at their job and more efficient thus work less hard for the same output.


When someone gets laid off, the company still needs the work to be done. It may require spreading their responsibilities amongst the people who are left at the company. This is usually short term. If it is long term and permanent, find another job.




This is my take on it.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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- Newly hired Idiots making 10-15k for more a year (than more experienced, higher performing employees with tenure) and they still can't manage to do the BASIC functions of the job after 6-8 months on the job and at best Weasle out of responsibility and every one else not even in the department have to pick up the slack for them and they seem completely immune to any consequences and those people's managers not even held responsible to get the people TRAINED (which they should already be after 6-8 months)

- Offsite bosses who serve no purpose and somehow manage to get paid a ton of money working 6 hour days while they ask those below them how to do certain aspects of the job when they should already know. 1000 emails going back and forth for basic issues that could be solved locally but 5-10 people need to give their opinions/assessments and then all you have is a garbled mess of confusion and the employees very confused on what the hell to do with the 5 different directives given.

Pissed off customers. Nothing is done about it. Loss of business. Nothing is done about it. Idiots making a ton of money that can't do basic job functions after 8 months on the job.. Nothing is done about it. High Turnover which is costly as hell. Nothing done about it.

And I'm sure this goes one at thousands of companies. Amazing they can even stay in business. Long term they probably don't though.

Yes life is unfair. Theres nothing really that can be done about that 100 percent completely. The workplace is unfair but it doesn't HAVE to be. If there was any damn accountability in the workplace (which there doesn't seem to be anymore)


If there was any accountability in the workplace, both in management and non management, you wouldn't have such an unfair, disorganized workplace.

But since so many idiots seem to be granted blanket immunity from ineptness and nonsense, the crap continues and business suffers


Companies have to put up with employees complaining day in and out that nothing is ever good enough. Most will complain that they don't want to have to put in extra work but they want that bigger paycheck. No one ever does as much as they do but get the reward (when in reality we don't know everything that our co-workers are assigned), no one gets picked on but them, etc.....


The reality of it all is that when you decide to stop focusing on what the company isn't doing for you, and instead focus on bettering your own situation these "problems" mysteriously disappear.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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"The reality of it all is that when you decide to stop focusing on what the company isn't doing for you, and instead focus on bettering your own situation these "problems" mysteriously disappear."

Paraphrasing:

"Ask not what your company can do for you, but ask what you can do for your company."
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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"The reality of it all is that when you decide to stop focusing on what the company isn't doing for you, and instead focus on bettering your own situation these "problems" mysteriously disappear."

Paraphrasing:

"Ask not what your company can do for you, but ask what you can do for your company."


Not what I said. I said to stop spending so much time focusing on what you aren't getting. You are wasting valuable time doing that when you could be looking for ways to become more efficient, thus you actually work less for the same money or you become very skilled in your job and find another company who will pay you more.


In the end, we are all responsible for our own success. That responsibility does not fall on the company. Look at this from the perspective of a business owner. The company is your customer. They pay you for a service that you provide much as you pay a mechanic to fix your car. You pay them for their skills and abilities. When your mechanic begins taking twice as long to fix your car and billing you for twice the labor and performs subpar work, you look for another mechanic. When your mechanic fixes your car on time and under budget, you stick with him and sometimes even give him more work. This is no different.
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