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Suppose you get two applicants, one a white man who grew up in a wretched, abusive single-parent home or foster situation, never was given anything, and had to fight every step of the way to get to this point.
The second applicant is a black or Hispanic woman from the 'burbs who grew up in a normal, comfortable home.
Two guesses which one will be favored by a diversity-driven entrance system. Totally unfair, racist, sexist, and despicable.
Interesting how you set up this scenario. You are implicitly agreeing that somebody who grows up in tough circumstances has a handicap due to their environment. Maybe people from such circumstances should get preferential treatment, realizing that if they achieved "A" grades while overcoming obstacles, they have the talent and drive to be "A+" achievers if given the opportunity.
I don't know how we deal with fairly equalizing things in the real world, so I am not an advocate of lowering standards for racial quotas.
I do find it interesting that you flipped the races from one is demographically typical though. I think that says something.
Can anyone explain how diversity adds to profits? That is the reason for the business.
Does diversity add to harmony among the workers? That is what makes the profits easier to make with less aggravation.
If I have 15 Green Bay Packer fans as my only employees that are all the same race, sex, and age group and I am making money hand over fist why would I want to change that?
I think diversity laws should be the next to go. That's not freedom. If a group think they are being under represented they can start their own company and hire who they want.
Standards are not lowered. Diversity programs are to get QUALIFIED minorities into jobs they might not otherwise get a shot at, because people like to hire those they can "relate" to. Since white people are more likely to be in hiring positions...you figure it out.
I'm currently in a job where the favorites (who just happen to be white) get opportunities THROWN at them. I'd love to see my coworkers' resumes and shake my head at the fiction they write. Example: my coworker is a union steward who does absolutely nothing for the membership, but this person gets to have "union management" meetings where management tells then what to do and they say "ok". I bet if they were forced to write and defend a grievance it'd be "deer in the headlights". I, on the other hand, can SHOW I have ACTUAL union experience. People getting over by doing very little & not having to work for opportunities is the REAL affirmative action.
To get back on the subject...people from my organization are disgustingly against diversity. They continue to amaze me, but I don't know why I'm surprised. It's dominated by the most privileged race & gender in America.
Exactly. I see diversity programs as a way to counter nepotism which may prevent qualified minorities from getting the job. But getting the best people on board should still be top priority.
Why do people always assume that minorities are not qualified for college admissions and employment opportunities? Isn't it possible that these candidates had to have more qualifications than white people just to be considered for positions?
People are always railing against diversity and minorities taking their jobs but say nothing about white people getting jobs because they are white. How do you explain why the top levels of management are almost always exclusively white males- nobody else is qualified?
Probably because most Americans are sick and tired of foreigners and minorities taking away our jobs, especially if they are less qualified. It never used to be that way.
If anyone ever doubted the existence of white privilege, the entitlement mentality of this post just proves it.
Interesting how you set up this scenario. You are implicitly agreeing that somebody who grows up in tough circumstances has a handicap due to their environment. Maybe people from such circumstances should get preferential treatment, realizing that if they achieved "A" grades while overcoming obstacles, they have the talent and drive to be "A+" achievers if given the opportunity.
I don't know how we deal with fairly equalizing things in the real world, so I am not an advocate of lowering standards for racial quotas.
I do find it interesting that you flipped the races from one is demographically typical though. I think that says something.
Yeah it says that you can't generalize about people based on their race.
What a completely idiotic assumption. Most people are not against diversity in the workforce.
In tech, we have a huge push for diversifying (ie. more women). .
The one group that people DO NOT want to work around is BLACK MEN.
ESPECIALLY in the tech field.
Ask any non black male if discrimination in the work place exists...99.9% will say no.
A few will openly admit there are issues. Most will continue to lie. That is what they are taught to do.
Diversity programs are a joke.
Better get those businesses started black men.
Last edited by usamathman; 02-08-2017 at 08:34 PM..
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