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Old 02-14-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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H1-B's are not just abused by large corporations in the Silicon Valley, or just IT/programming/call center jobs. I worked at a small (less than 70 employees) aerospace company (Los Angeles area) and more than 3/4 of workers were H1-B. Mechanical/aerospace engineers, office assistants, technicians, those positions. Could they have hired U.S. citizens? Yes. I knew loads of engineers struggling to find employment. The big aerospace companies in the vicinity only hire U.S. citizens since you need a clearance, but everyone and their grandma got an engineering degree and applies to those.
Yep, any US citizen engineer is trying to flock to govt jobs that require a clearance but the veteran status engineers will have first dibs if they still have their clearances. I am always applying for these jobs but they are pretty much the last non at will non H1B jobs and there are not many of them. Its almost like playing the lottery.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:11 PM
 
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How can any American college kids compete when they have a $120-200k student loan? Good STEM colleges aren't cheap. You look at any Tech college tuition is in the mid 30s to 40s.

Maybe students in India don't waste their time protesting and rioting when something does not go their way. Get arrested, have a record. Bye Bye.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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Maybe students in India don't waste their time protesting and rioting when something does not go their way. Get arrested, have a record. Bye Bye.

I think you've been watching too many t.v. news programs. Not every American is out rioting. And there certainly are riots all over the world, including India.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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How can any American college kids compete when they have a $120-200k student loan? Good STEM colleges aren't cheap. You look at any Tech college tuition is in the mid 30s to 40s.

Maybe students in India don't waste their time protesting and rioting when something does not go their way. Get arrested, have a record. Bye Bye.
They are rioting precisely because tuition is 40k a years and companies don't care about them. What differenced does a record make when your odds of making it into a paid for single family home with a good stem job are like less than 1% after years of hard ship.


And lets say you make it to a professional engineer mark, there is nothing stopping a company from canning you and replacing you with cheap H1B or some other cheap person. Its a race to the bottom so why compete to be the lowest common denominator.


This is the new normal and it will get worse, the protests wont stay peaceful as the police brutality increases people will just start shooting. We have had it comfy in the USA for a long time with companies raking in huge profits and the regular citizen able to do ok, but now we are reaching a point where a lot of people don't have much to loose.
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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Tech companies have made plans to move their foreign-born workers up north to British Columbia, to circumvent Trump's new rules.
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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The big aerospace companies in the vicinity only hire U.S. citizens since you need a clearance, but everyone and their grandma got an engineering degree and applies to those.
It depends, IBM is a big federal contractor and they have offshored most of their IT JOBS to India.
You are correct in that the DOD generally wants US citizens working their projects for security reasons, but that might change someday. The DOD is infiltrated with liberal activists that might change the rules.
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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HR manager admits trying to thwart probe into fraudulent visa scheme | NJ.com

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Patel, of Jersey City, is the latest employee of SCM Data and MMC Systems to plead guilty in the scheme, which involved sponsoring foreign workers for H-1B visas ostensibly to work for the two companies.

That sponsorship involved assuring the government the workers had full-time positions and annual salaries, according to prosecutors.

Instead, authorities say, the workers were only paid when the companies contracted them out to an unspecified third-party client.
This is my problem with the H-1B system is that so many companies like this consulting HR companies take the H-1B workers' paychecks and turns around and give them much less than the companies they are sent to work for.

There are too many loopholes in the system that allows theft of paycheck and the workers being exploited like slaves.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:32 AM
 
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Eff him. That's another company that won't get my business.
Uh... Goddady got my business for 22 web domains.

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The "buy american" and "hire american" movements are being led by a by a bunch of anti-capitalist trumpites
NOPE. Trump is all for capitalism and wealth in America. I strongly believe in him, and HE is NOT A POLITICIAN, HE'S A GREAT BILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMAN THAT CREATED JOBS.

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The sad reality behind the scenes is that Trump's proposals are going to hurt the bottom line of those corporations that have been abusing the system for years.

And they are going to spend a lot of $$$$$ to make sure it is as hard as can be for him to do so, even if that means paying mass media outlets to turn the story in their favor to win public opinion.


People that have their eyes open that can look behind the scenes of what the mass media tells them know what's going on.
NOPE. During the Y2K Dotcom era of 1997 to 2000, there was almost no H1B abuse and IT companies paid VERY HIGH salaries to IT/CS people. That greatly impacted the economy by stimulating it into a VERY HOT ECONOMY. Once these greedy IT companies start hiring AMERICANS AND PAYING THEM WELL, THEN THE ECONOMY WILL BOOM AND IN RETURN HELP THEM AGAIN.

BUL**** NWO WANTED TO DESTROY AMERICA, AND OBAMA WAS WITH THEM.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:03 AM
 
Location: USA
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How can any American college kids compete when they have a $120-200k student loan? Good STEM colleges aren't cheap. You look at any Tech college tuition is in the mid 30s to 40s.

Maybe students in India don't waste their time protesting and rioting when something does not go their way. Get arrested, have a record. Bye Bye.
That's what scholarships and grants are for. If you're truly cut out for a tough STEM program at a good school, then you should have done well enough to earn them to get a lot of that paid for.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Uh... Goddady got my business for 22 web domains.
Yay.
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