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Old 03-22-2017, 10:23 PM
 
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I have been told employers can verify employment by accessing tax information but can't confirm. They can find out from previous w-2's if someone worked where they said they worked. Can someone verify?
Nope. US code 6103. The IRS rules forbid giving out anything at all.

Most previous employers will only give out employment dates and job title. Typically, HR won't even disclose whether they were fired for cause or not. The last thing they want is a lawsuit.

In my industry, I usually know people who worked at any company I see on a resume. I do back door reference checks all the time. Someone I know is going to be much more candid about a job candidate than the references they give.

In 2017, a criminal record check and a credit check are pretty much automatic. For anyone with sub-prime credit, their resume is immediately suspect.

I've had Indian co-workers who prepped their buddies for a job interview. The resume is bogus. They claim to have worked on related projects. I've been pretty good at sniffing it out and marching them out the door. HR had to send out an email that anyone caught pulling that stunt ever again would be terminated with cause. It stopped.

I remember interviewing someone who claimed to have 5 years as a C programmer. After a few minutes, I smelled a rat.
Page 1 of the C book has the program:
main() {
printf("Hello world\n"); }

I handed the guy an erasable pen, stood him at the white board, and asked him to write the hello world program. Yep. He couldn't do it. I was the 4th person on the interview list. 3 people had talked to him and hadn't sniffed him out. I couldn't believe it.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I remember interviewing someone who claimed to have 5 years as a C programmer. After a few minutes, I smelled a rat.
Page 1 of the C book has the program:
main() {
printf("Hello world\n"); }

I handed the guy an erasable pen, stood him at the white board, and asked him to write the hello world program. Yep. He couldn't do it. I was the 4th person on the interview list. 3 people had talked to him and hadn't sniffed him out. I couldn't believe it.
I do.

I always ask technical questions. I've had several candidates that froze up, sputtered, started throwing buzzwords around, etc. But when we'd do informal panel-style interviews, I was always the only one who wanted to ask technical questions. Others want to lob softballs, haven't really thought about what they're trying to get, etc. Once I had someone else lambaste me for asking stuff that was "too technical". So stuff like what you posted doesn't surprise me at all... a surprising number of interviewers don't actually want to know if the candidate is qualified. They don't want to be "mean". They don't want anyone to be uncomfortable.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Nope. Never. All lies are safe!


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Old 11-11-2020, 05:39 PM
 
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Or, you get the job, they find out you lied, and you lose the job.

"Everyone else" does not lie. Some do, and karma nearly always catches up to them.
Karma ain't real.
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Old 11-11-2020, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As a former HR Specialist you should know that if an employee has issues one the employer will pull the application/resume and review it thoroughly. If there is a material omission or 'lie' that can be the reason for discharge. A material omission or 'lie' must be something more than stating that a period of previous employment started in August, not September.

Do not lie on an application or resume.
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Old 11-11-2020, 10:38 PM
 
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If the employer uses JOBR and your previous employer reports to JOBR, then it's possible that certain lies can be discovered. JOBR is like a credit report for employment. An employee report, per se. It has integrations with Workday, PeopleSoft, HCM, Zoho, SAP SuccessFactors, BambooHR, Zenefits, ADP Enterprise, and others. It's typically used by larger employers.
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Old 11-11-2020, 10:40 PM
 
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Page 1 of the C book has the program:
main() {
printf("Hello world\n"); }

I handed the guy an erasable pen, stood him at the white board, and asked him to write the hello world program. Yep. He couldn't do it. I was the 4th person on the interview list. 3 people had talked to him and hadn't sniffed him out. I couldn't believe it.
That code wouldn't run as-is.
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:44 AM
 
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3rd party background checks will independently verify the employer's contact info and then talk to HR, so you can't just make up something. Personal references can be more easily be faked though.
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:02 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Karma ain't real.
Claims the poster who wonders whether its OK to fabricate work experience for their resume!!! Hon, you have an awful lot to learn. Hopefully you'll learn sooner than later so there's time to recover from your bigger mistakes.
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