When will the US start basic income due to automation? (analysis, job)
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This is silly. Millennials will successfully find jobs, just like every generation before them that faced job changing technologies. And millennials' children will find jobs, as technology renders more changes. And so it goes. There will ALWAYS be new jobs, even when the robots come, and even when robots version 10 are in play. Human needs are plastic and innovative and will always require the effort and time of other humans to satisfy. This is a metaphysical absolute. You have nothing to worry about, and neither do the millennials, and neither will the millennials great great great great grandchildren.
As for welfare, it will one day be abolished as we evolve philosophically and realize that it is immoral for people to steal from others based on need.
So that, my friend, is the future. Because man is basically good and we will make it that way. The future holds limitless potential, limitless employment, and an end to altruism-collectivism.
And you can take that to the Bank of Certainty.
I agree with you philosophically but I can't see much of it play out nicely. For those things to work there will have to be a huge societal change and I can't see that happening without a lot of people dying. Perhaps the drug culture today is darwinism at work. We can't force people into labor when they have zero motivation to put the efforts into it when it's easier to sit back and go online and apply for handouts and show up to government agencies for freebies. Democrat stronghold cities love income redistribution.
As they should. It is better to die in the street than to live by robbery of those around you.
So long as they actually let you die and don't use implied consent to turn you into a medical debtor and then jail you for vagrancy etc etc. I think implied concent needs to be removed anyways considering how expensive medical care has become, we as a society should not assume that someone can afford it or do they want to take on 6 figure debt for some emergency and have to drag out of bed the rest of their lives to repay it or have even less hope of getting off the streets due to the debts.
Norway didn't nationalize foreign plants and properties and basically steal other people's money, causing foreign investors to flee, as Venezuela did under Chavez.
Norway is not "basically an oil based economy". It's a modern industrial democracy with a huge shipbuilding industry, fishing, manufacturing, high tech, etc. You really can't compare them with Venezuela.
Yet they are still socialist and don't let their people die on the streets and don't let forign companies come in and exploit the crap out of them.
It is a fact that automation in the form of advanced robotics and software will eventually make large percentages of the labor force obsolete. What will probably happen at first is that standards of living for many families will decline, income inequality continues to increase, and there will be more of a societal shift back towards only one person in the household working, since there won't be enough jobs for both partners in the family. But, due to increased cost of living these days, this will probably mean more people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and even 50s moving back in with their parents since they can't afford a place on their own on one income.
After that, as automation gobbles up even more jobs, eventually there won't be enough jobs for even one breadwinner, so millions of families will be left with no income. All bets are off at that point. Perhaps universal basic income will be implemented in many countries then, but nobody really knows. The best thing anyone can do now is aggressively save and plan in case you're out of work and can't get a job in a few years. Also learn skills that will still be useful in 20 years, like programming. Learn self defense in case things get really bad (I doubt they will, but learning to defend yourself is never a bad idea). One thing is for sure, and that is that the global economy and societies are going to be going through some massive changes in the next 30 years.
It is a fact that automation in the form of advanced robotics and software will eventually make large percentages of the labor force obsolete. What will probably happen at first is that standards of living for many families will decline, income inequality continues to increase, and there will be more of a societal shift back towards only one person in the household working, since there won't be enough jobs for both partners in the family. But, due to increased cost of living these days, this will probably mean more people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and even 50s moving back in with their parents since they can't afford a place on their own on one income.
After that, as automation gobbles up even more jobs, eventually there won't be enough jobs for even one breadwinner, so millions of families will be left with no income. All bets are off at that point. Perhaps universal basic income will be implemented in many countries then, but nobody really knows. The best thing anyone can do now is aggressively save and plan in case you're out of work and can't get a job in a few years. Also learn skills that will still be useful in 20 years, like programming. Learn self defense in case things get really bad (I doubt they will, but learning to defend yourself is never a bad idea). One thing is for sure, and that is that the global economy and societies are going to be going through some massive changes in the next 30 years.
This is all unsupported and illogical nonsense. And is basically the same hackneyed automation-kills-jobs religion that has surrounded every technological advance since the dawn of time. It ignores human nature, reality, and the empirical experience of 6,000+/- years of recorded history.
Furthermore, it misapprehends what "income" is, where it comes from, and how it is created. And presumes the absurdity of a state of being where there is universal unemployment and non-productivity, yet plenty of resources with which to fund "basic income".
The whole idea, if we can unjustly credit it with even being an idea which implies a process of logic or reason when both are clearly absent, is utterly silly.
This is all unsupported and illogical nonsense. And is basically the same hackneyed automation-kills-jobs religion that has surrounded every technological advance since the dawn of time. It ignores human nature, reality, and the empirical experience of 6,000+/- years of recorded history.
Furthermore, it misapprehends what "income" is, where it comes from, and how it is created. And presumes the absurdity of a state of being where there is universal unemployment and non-productivity, yet plenty of resources with which to fund "basic income".
The whole idea, if we can unjustly credit it with even being an idea which implies a process of logic or reason when both are clearly absent, is utterly silly.
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