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and many older employees rely on sympathy so they can hang onto a job they believe they have a ...right......to hang onto until they die.
And when unproductive old workers realize the " sympathy card" can't help they try the " age discrimination card" in order to hang onto a job they no longer can handle.
And many older workers keep working because they have no choice if they want to the pay the bills... or are some people around here still living in the past, where everyone gets a huge pension when they retire?
I just wonder if all the corporate apologists around here who are so eager to get rid of the elderly will themselves be volunteered to be put down when their "time' comes.
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and many older employees rely on sympathy so they can hang onto a job they believe they have a ...right......to hang onto until they die.
And when unproductive old workers realize the " sympathy card" can't help they try the " age discrimination card" in order to hang onto a job they no longer can handle.
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Originally Posted by Rambler123
And many older workers keep working because they have no choice if they want to the pay the bills... or are some people around here still living in the past, where everyone gets a huge pension when they retire?
I just wonder if all the corporate apologists around here who are so eager to get rid of the elderly will themselves be volunteered to be put down when their "time' comes.
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People do have the right to work at their job until they die, as long as they can do the work and don't get fired for incompetence. Where I worked in late 70s-early 90s, a woman retired last year at age 85, with nearly 60 years there, and died less than a year later. Here, the last 2 retirees have been age 70 and 72, and we still have a fixed pension. It's not always financial need, some people just enjoy working, and just don't have the activities to keep them busy if they retired. I'll be 65 in a few months, and could afford to retire but as like as I enjoy the work and am healthy I will stay, up to age 70 maximum. Doing the calculations I found that the extra 5 years mean an additional $1,600/month income when I do retire, which is nice, but not the reason for staying.
People do have the right to work at their job until they die, as long as they can do the work and don't get fired for incompetence. Where I worked in late 70s-early 90s, a woman retired last year at age 85, with nearly 60 years there, and died less than a year later. Here, the last 2 retirees have been age 70 and 72, and we still have a fixed pension. It's not always financial need, some people just enjoy working, and just don't have the activities to keep them busy if they retired. I'll be 65 in a few months, and could afford to retire but as like as I enjoy the work and am healthy I will stay, up to age 70 maximum. Doing the calculations I found that the extra 5 years mean an additional $1,600/month income when I do retire, which is nice, but not the reason for staying.
I'm not far behind you in age. We had an employee in our department retire a couple of years ago at age 73. To the best of my knowledge, that's the oldest person I've worked with (multiple employers) in my 40-year career. Virtually everybody else was gone by age 70, and most earlier than that. Maxing out Social Security payouts at 70, and having to start Traditional IRA withdrawls by age 70-1/2 probably factors into some of that.
I agree that people should have the right to work as long as they wish, but the number of people in their 80s or older whose condition hasn't diminished to a point where it would be an impediment to employment has to be very small, I would say, based on my observations. For those expecting to work well into their 70s and beyond, best to have a contingency plan in case it's not possible.
I don't intend to continue working longer than I have to. The daily stress, work schedule, rules and regulations, among other things; have just taken their toll, I guess. Having more control over my life sounds appealing. I dream of autonomy and not having to answer to anybody anymore. But, to each his own.
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