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One poster said that in states where Marijuana for recreational purposes is legal, they should not test for Marijuana use.
On the other hand, the employer does not want someone that has their thinking ability less than normal working, especially if their job has any possible degree of danger. If the employee that has slow responses operating machinery (due to being high on Marijuana) gets injured, the company will probably get sued for letting them work and got injured while under the influence. The companies insurance company, can refuse to pay any claim as it is the companies fault for letting the person work when they were under the influence of Marijuana. Not only will they refuse to pay the claim, but will raise the companies insurance rate.
Just because something is legal, does not make it OK for the company to employ them and let them get injured doing their job due to their being high on something that is legal. Just as they get rid of drunks, even though alcohol is legal to use.
Living wage is a myth. You can adjust your living to any wage, to the extent that you live on the streets
Not really. Below a certain threshold one starts to sacrifice food, shelter, clothing, medical care and it isn't even worth working because when you factor in wear and tear on the body and transportation you are working for free.
Also good luck staying employed when you have no address and no access to a shower and clothes in acceptable condition.
One poster said that in states where Marijuana for recreational purposes is legal, they should not test for Marijuana use.
and smoking/drinking is legal but employers also test for those (for people in healthcare, some healthcare systems screen smokers even if they smoke at home, and won't hire them)
no idea why people today think weed is some magic thing that should be accepted everywhere
weed is federally illegal and anyone who uses it is criminal until otherwise changed. In states that have it, fine, they aren't criminal, but why should employers hire them when they don't have to?
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Originally Posted by MSchemist80
Not really. Below a certain threshold one starts to sacrifice food, shelter, clothing, medical care and it isn't even worth working because when you factor in wear and tear on the body and transportation you are working for free.
I didn't say it was an ideal lifestyle, but that's what I meant, the living wage myth is really a number that is pushing a lifestyle. Since when has people on minimum wage been able to afford food/shelter/medical care/etc without any sacrifice? never, but all of a sudden, the minimum wage should provide those? for no reason other than what? someone else is richer so they should get some of it as well?
It's not always that easy, especially if it's a small shop that can only afford to train 1-2 people if even that. And what usually happens is the trainee leaves for another shop, decide they don't want to do the work anymore, or are not capable of learning how to do the work. The place needs people who can hit the ground running because margins are tight enough and they can't really afford the loss taken during training.
What's your point? That running a small business is hard? (Duh.)
What if you can't find someone who can hit the ground running at $10/hr? Do you maybe do some homework on average wages vs commensurate experience for the role and see if what you're offering is below market value? Or do you whine and complain about how we need more immigrants here who'll push wages back down to your $10/hr?
what job pays $10/hr and expects experience? all the ones I've ever known expect no experience and trains for that wage
only thing they expect is for people to show up on time, every time, stay for the entire shift and don't steal from them
they stay employed after that by shutting up and listening/learning what they are told
and no, a machinist/whatever that has large equipment is not $10/hr, no one starts someone with no experience on million dollar (or hundred thousand) equipment because if they break it, it cost more to fix it
. Since when has people on minimum wage been able to afford food/shelter/medical care/etc without any sacrifice? never, but all of a sudden, the minimum wage should provide those? for no reason other than what? someone else is richer so they should get some of it as well?
Since the govt is making up the difference with social safety net programs. Otherwise the market is literally telling people to just die, they aren't worth the resources to keep alive.
Since the govt is making up the difference with social safety net programs. Otherwise the market is literally telling people to just die, they aren't worth the resources to keep alive.
Yes, this is why I'd be in favor of increasing minimum wage, so they can cut the social welfare
other reason I don't mind increasing minimum wage is it increases taxable income
but both reasons, I am not doing it to get people "out of poverty", I don't believe any $ amount is going to get people out of poverty if they don't change their own lifestyle/mindset. The minimum wage earners are the lowest of social rungs, and they will stay there regardless of what $ is listed until they decide to step to next rung on their own. No one can force them to move up since they can spend it away quicker than they can earn
IE $100/hr minimum wage, they will still be "in poverty" because everything is adjusted upwards
Take weed off the panel and she would fill the positions
Why take weed off the panel? It's not legal and is an issue with insurance. Why do people feel the need to do drugs? If you can't function without them, you might want to have a good, hard look at yourself.
If we want things to be like Germany than companies need to behave like Germans and have their fellow countrymen's back. German companies, despite higher prices, keep manufacturing in Germany, train, offer internships and apprenticeships, and actually pay their employees with generous time off/vacation and other benefits.
It is not all about squeezing every possible penny of profit out of the company. The company actually cares about Germany and its citizens.
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