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Old 12-10-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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Federal minimum wage before taxes for a person working 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month, pays that person $1160 per month. And it has absolutely nothing to do with living beyond your means. How is spending your whole paycheck on ONLY rent and utilities and using what's left over for groceries living beyond your means?
Since when was is a rule you can only work 40 hours a week? If that were a rule/law then I'd be done by Wednesday. lol

MW 40 hrs a week, can't make ends meet, living as cheap as possible, get another job. Most everyone I know has had to do that at some point in their life.

If you only want to work 40 hrs a week making MW and barely get by, that's fine if your happy. Free time is more important to some more than others. AND there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Someone also said something about people waiting in line to get checked out cause not enough MW employees, or something like that. That's not a "higher income" trait, it's a personality trait. Most call them a$$h0!es.
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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Since when was is a rule you can only work 40 hours a week? If that were a rule/law then I'd be done by Wednesday. lol

MW 40 hrs a week, can't make ends meet, living as cheap as possible, get another job. Most everyone I know has had to do that at some point in their life.
If only it were that easy. I've been seeing jobs that pay only $1-$2 dollars more than minimum wage and require a bachelor's degree with experience.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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If only it were that easy. I've been seeing jobs that pay only $1-$2 dollars more than minimum wage and require a bachelor's degree with experience.
I know that this afternoon I could work 5 hours and make $100 easy. If I had a day's notice, I'd double that. Just by hand washing cars.

There is plenty of work out there for people who want to do it. 40 hours a week, there's another 40 hours of time to do work and still have time to relax.

I did it, my kids did it, and it was a town of 3,500.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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If only it were that easy. I've been seeing jobs that pay only $1-$2 dollars more than minimum wage and require a bachelor's degree with experience.
That's because college is the new high school. It does not necessarily guarantee you a "better" job than what a high school grad can get unless you're studying something hardcore like computer science, or solid state physics. My friend for example has a bachelors in psychology from a decent university and is stuck stocking shelves for $8 an hour at a local grocer.

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Old 12-10-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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At minimum?

I'm curious.
If minimum wage was raised by $5 (which is about 50% what it is now), what about all those who are making $15 an hour now with college degrees in entry level specialized positions? They won't get a $7.50/hour raise. They will be making the same as those in positions that do not require special skills or education. Is this fair?
I'm very open to hearing differing opinions without getting into an argument.

What do you think YOU'RE worth?
I'd like this to be an open discussion with no attacks or party-blaming (dems/reps)

In the current economy at about $9-10 an hour as minimum wage, I'd say I'm probably worth $21 an hour.. With a specialized masters and a license to practice therapy. Second year out of school.
I dunno why do people think people who work full time should not be allowed to afford an apartment or feed there kids?
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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I dunno why do people think people who work full time should not be allowed to afford an apartment or feed there kids?
It has more to do with the COL and rent rising far quicker than wages than anything else.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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I know that this afternoon I could work 5 hours and make $100 easy. If I had a day's notice, I'd double that. Just by hand washing cars.

There is plenty of work out there for people who want to do it. 40 hours a week, there's another 40 hours of time to do work and still have time to relax.

I did it, my kids did it, and it was a town of 3,500.

Yea as if ppl are going to let some random guy wash their car, if its not for charity....good luck with that.

And trust me if anyone could make $100 dollars easily washing cars, why would they even work a minimum wage job that doesn't even pay $100 dollars a day. Get real.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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That's because college is the new high school. It does not necessarily guarantee you a "better" job than what a high school grad can get unless you're studying something hardcore like computer science, or solid state physics. My friend for example has a bachelors in psychology from a decent university and is stuck stocking shelves for $8 an hour at a local grocer.
This is a reflection on your friend moreso than the job market. Retail stockers don’t need a degree, and stores aren’t looking for a degree for cashiers and stockers.

It is true that more jobs require college degrees than in the past, but that is because many jobs have gotten more technical, and many of the easier jobs needling the least training have been automated or sent offshore.

There are many jobs that require a degree, and liberal arts degree holders have a better chance in the overall job market than people with a high school credential.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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It has more to do with the COL and rent rising far quicker than wages than anything else.
Whose fault is that certainly not working people. We need to restrain the greed of land lords and property owners.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Look at this from a small business owner's point of view: Once minimum wage reaches $15 an hour, either I work more to offset the increase in payroll expense (thus cutting hours for my minimum wage workers) or I raise prices on the merchandise I sell, thus possibly losing customers who can't pay a higher price. Somebody is screwed either way.

Plus, the jobs I offer are not worth $15 an hour. Sorry! A cashier job is not worth $15. There is nothing special to know in my business except some product knowledge to assist customers in their product purchases.

I live in California and the housing market is way out of control. I realize people can't live on minimum wage. The 20-something year-olds that work for me still live at home with their parents for various reasons. There's no way they could live on their own on minimum wage. And $15/hr isn't going to solve the problem either. What needs to be done is to reduce the cost of living so that whatever the wage a worker is making, regardless of education level, it will support them. Affordable housing should be the priority.

I live next to a town where a lot of the houses are being sold at $800,000 and up. Trust me when I say some of these houses are not worth what they're being sold for.
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