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Old 04-08-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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They certainly do not indicate he is a capable writer which is why I noted his communication skills "may" be a problem.

(Nor does his post immediately above.)
Ok, agreed.
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Old 04-08-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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He may have communication issues. Besides the writing, he seems to have communication issues with people. He's too fearful to go on mock interviews at public meetings and workshops.

It's hard to get over those issues, if they are afraid of strangers.
Yes.
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Old 04-08-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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He may have communication issues. Besides the writing, he seems to have communication issues with people. He's too fearful to go on mock interviews at public meetings and workshops.

It's hard to get over those issues, if they are afraid of strangers.
And will not be hired.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Fake news.

Currently, I know many people, young and old, cannot find a job for a year or more, including new graduates. My children are among them. They studied engineering and business in universities and graduated a year ago. They are working as casual at a bar and a retail store for the time being. The employers only call them when they need to fill in for someone goes on vacation or calls in sick. But of course they don't want to work there for a long time. As soon as they get a job in their studied fields, they will get out of there right away.

The world is getting to be crazy. There's no job security and hours guarantee at most companies now. The employers only hire part-times or contractors, so they don't have to pay for benefits or much vacation time.

There's no caring and loyalty on both sides (employers and employees) anymore.

The employers think and plan how to use the most out of employees, and when they can use them so much already, and see the employees who are older and slower (maybe), they kick those employees to the curb.

In return, the employees know the employers' tricks, so they just want to get in and see how it's like, and when they find somewhere else better, they jump fast.

Thus, nowadays the employers have so much turnovers and have to pay lots of money for hirings and training constantly.

Tit for tat.
Nowadays they just stick you on a computer for training.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Lets also not forget that in many cases, unless you have a connection and an "in" with someone already at the company (that can weasel your job application around the formalities of the hiring process) your resume could just fall into a black hole of hell never to see the light of day.

You're already a disadvantage if you don't have a connection and competing against someone that does. The "opening" may just go to someone already at the company as well.
There is a fair bit of truth to your post, but there are some other things going on. I can only speak to larger businesses.

Most hiring managers in large business are well aware of and hate that "black hole of hell." HR is chartered with keeping a database of resumes and candidates, but trying to finding a pool of candidates from HR sometimes is like pulling teeth. It is as if the HR staffing employees don't even know how to spell "HR."

Hiring managers, directors & VPs spend quite a bit of time jumping through internal hoops to "open a req" to hire an additional person or replace someone who left. It is time consuming and painful, and during tough times, frequently requires approval from multiple layers of executives in the line-of-business as well as finance, HR and elsewhere.

When a req is approved, sometimes it is only approved for "internal hire" -- that is, a transfer from elsewhere inside the company, because at the highest levels of the company the company doesn't want to add more total people, and wants to avoid involuntary layoffs in areas of the company that need to contract. So putting an external hiring freeze in place helps focus hiring managers on internal candidates. Only if they can't find one are they allowed to go outside, which usually means going through HR.

If they are allowed to hire from outside, in many companies, the consequence of managers hiring people with whom they have a connection is twofold.

First, the hiring manager may be able to fill the position more quickly - and there is always intense pressure on the manager to get it done. The manager believes the person to be quality, but unless they've actually worked with the person closely in the past (say, at another company), they never really know.

Second, HR has discovered that hiring people with whom a manager has a connection by itself isn't necessarily bad, but in aggregate it tends to perpetuate demographic problems. Managers are people, and outside of work, it is very common for people to have connections with people of their own demographics.

That's generally viewed as a bad thing: the company doesn't want to inadvertently disproportionately hire new employees of the same demographic as the hiring manager. The company in aggregate wants to, and in order to comply with various EEOC laws and regulations must, develop a diverse workforce.

Letting hiring managers select from a population of "connections" may not further the goal of developing that diverse workforce, and that's a problem.

So many HR departments have a plethora of internal regulations to help ensure the hiring manager (frequently, say a white male) doesn't merely choose candidates from the same demographic.

HR departments frequently have a rule in place saying that a req must be posted internally for at least X days/weeks prior to going outside. It must be open outside for at least X days/weeks prior to interviewing anyone. The hiring manager must select from resumes provided by HR - where, behind the scenes, HR is doing its best to ensure that they have a diverse set of candidates from which the hiring manager may select.

And ultimately, only then may a hiring manager request an offer be extended by HR to the candidate. And HR won't do that until they know the hiring manager has considered a diverse set of candidates.

All this takes time.

The hiring manager wants to short-circuit all of this, because the manager is being held accountable for actual results.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Small business is number one employer in USA
46% of Americans work -time for a change -work is good for you
Asking foreigners to do our work for us at low wages will never benefit us

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Old 04-09-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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I defintely see one crowded train car after another so it looks like hiring is soaring. I always look for a empty train car and cant find one. So it appears that lots of people are working in 2018.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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I defintely see one crowded train car after another so it looks like hiring is soaring. I always look for a empty train car and cant find one. So it appears that lots of people are working in 2018.
Highways are more jammed up around my area too
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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I defintely see one crowded train car after another so it looks like hiring is soaring. I always look for a empty train car and cant find one. So it appears that lots of people are working in 2018.
I see hundreds of oil tankers going by on the rails. For awhile it was coal. Back to liquid gold now............
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Wow! It's great that everyone can get a job. That's a great generalization that if you can't find a job then there is something wrong with you. No matter how outstanding your experience, age, work ethic, or if you bravely served our country, if you can't find a job then there is still something wrong with you.
There is a certain number of people who believe they have outstanding experience and work ethic, who don't feel they're "too young" or "too old", or that the fact that they served one hitch as a cook or clerk should open up every door to them... who are simply wrong. Unemployment is at record lows, millions are happily employed or hopping to higher-paying jobs, openings abound and qualified candidates are tough to find... but because you can't find what you want the system must be broken. Doesn't work that way!
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