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Old 06-25-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
This is true. The prices on food have not gone down. It only saves the corporation money. They don't care about lowering prices for consumers.
No, it makes up for the increase in pay for the employees still there. In our area no one will work at McD or any other fast food place for less than $15.
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Old 06-25-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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News flash: The job market is not unicorns and rainbows. Marketable skills don't matter if the employee has no experience in that marketable skill. People go back to school all the time, learn new marketable skills and then get rejected because there are no jobs that require no experience.

Add into the mix ageism and other stereotyping done by employers, and your comment doesn't fit reality.



Who told you we have a free market? We don't have capitalism here in the USA, we have crony capitalism.



So something that doesn't exist makes the decision. That's not reasonable.



Devaluing work and workers is not progress. Dehumanization is not progress.

To piggyback off of your first paragraph/point, if the person doesnt know the right people, thrn their marketable skills are useless.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Employers need to stop demanding 10 years experience and a bachelor's degree for entry level jobs.
The only place where employers demand 10 years experience & a bachelor's degree for entry level jobs is in a bookstore. In the Fiction aisle.

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Old 06-25-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
This is true. The prices on food have not gone down. It only saves the corporation money. They don't care about lowering prices for consumers.

One stays in business by selling your items at the highest price point your customers are willing to pay. Businesses and corporations are beholden to shareholders and if they are privately held to the ownership, management, and staff. If they lower prices its because of competition not doing some favor for their customers.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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it is corporate welfare.
No, it isn't.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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The only place where employers demand 10 years experience & a bachelor's degree for entry level jobs is in a bookstore. In the Fiction aisle.
I was using hyperbole to make a point. Clearly you missed that.

Many entry level jobs require 3-5 years experience and a bachelor's degree. There are zero that require no experience (except sales) - for recent grads, and career changers, 3-5 years might as well be 10 years.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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They will try to avid big hikes, as they fear casual dining.
They won't care about hikes. The dollar menu is long dead.

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I am not concerned how much CEO earns.

whatsoever.
I am.

How the CEO is paid tells me how they will run the business. Will they become daily ticker watchers making decisions that only serve to goose the stock price short term to get the bonus check, at the cost of long term sustainability?

I remember many businesses that I enjoyed going to that closed because of short-term-ism. Business management doesn't just work for the stockholders. There are other stakeholders at the table. The best management realizes this and makes long term sustainable decisions. Even if the ticker symbol shows red today.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I am an economic conservative, but a nominal guaranteed annual income, replacing the expensive hodge-podge of bureaucratic, dehumanizing welfare entitlements may actually be the lesser of two inescapable evils.
Until then, who knows?
Sadly, there is no "...replacing the expensive hodge-podge of bureaucratic, dehumanizing welfare entitlements." All of the government employees involved in delivering the expensive hodge-podge work hard to elect representatives that will commit to the continuance of the expensive hodge-podge. The closest thing to perpetual life is a government program.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I was using hyperbole to make a point. Clearly you missed that.

Many entry level jobs require 3-5 years experience and a bachelor's degree. There are zero that require no experience (except sales) - for recent grads, and career changers, 3-5 years might as well be 10 years.
I have seen several "Help Wanted" signs or ads lately that specifically state that no experience is required and that they will train, all at $14/hour or more to start at:



2 different quick oil change places (Glad I don't use them)
A local fast food Mexican food chain
Construction helpers
A local chicken wing fast food restaurant
A sandwich shop
An animal hospital
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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I'm all for automation, but we're going to have to provide a universal basic income if it continues to accelerate. Once you get beyond jobs requiring advanced degrees and skilled trades, there is very little that can't be automated. Indeed, with technology, the need for many of those more skilled jobs can be partially replaced by technology, so nobody is really safe. My job as a writer can to a certain extent be automated. Not all those jobs will be replaced by alternative employment - that's kind of the point. So yeah, tax dollars are going to have to replace some of what we are "saving" or it will be a disaster.
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