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I know this may be way over the heads of almost all typical know-nothing workers in the USA, but the US and State Governments with their worker protection laws is the Biggest Labor Union in the world! I hope and pray that this ruling starts to dissolve some of the useless union inspired worker protection regulations and laws government forces on us. My money was well spent buying workers stupidity into electing our man to power and hopefully the tax cut will enable us to buy many more. Now if we can finally end this union hold on america by doing something about all those pesky union spearheaded regulations that provides worker's protections, that is when we can move forward. But, so long as we have OSHA, Wage and Hour departments, Minimum wages, Unemployment tax burdens, etc., etc., etc... we will never be free from the worst Union of all, the government!
It wasn't over my head. New York and New Jersey have already passed laws to minimize the effect of the court ruling. I only hope that some stupid wiseguy like Janus passes on union coverage and gets fired for nothing other than he is not liked.
Yep. I am surprised it took this long for this to pass. That people were forced to pay into unions they didn't want to use is crazy. Just like corporations need to be removed from the political process, so do unions.
But it didn't work out that way did it?
The corporations have citizens united and the unions have Janus.
It is not about speech as much as being about having to pay dues to an organization in order to keep a government job. The decision removes that necessity, so the argument goes that 'free speech' is restored to workers, at least, that's how the justices decided.
As others have stated, the people who will suffer from this decision won't realize it for a while.
Here is a quote from the majority opinion:
JUSTICE ALITO delivered the opinion of the Court.
Under Illinois law, public employees are forced to subsidize a union, even if they choose not to join and strongly object to the positions the union takes in collective bargaining and related activities. We conclude that this arrangement violates the free speech rights of nonmembers by compelling them to subsidize private speech on matters of substantial public concern.
The first amendment is specifically mentioned. What the ruling is about is to weaken unions to the point where unions virtually have no effect on elections. The long term goal is destroy the last of the powerful unions the public unions.
For the six years following the financial crisis of 2008 nonunion workers in New York State did not get a raise. Unionized employees missed only three raises.
We are moving in the right direction. That's the point here.
If you still think that at 55 then there might be some substance to what you said. Remember what I've said here with no malice. I've been there and done that.
If you still think that at 55 then there might be some substance to what you said. Remember what I've said here with no malice. I've been there and done that.
I never said anything about the future. This particular case is nothing but a good thing.
Whose fault is that? You're an adult. If you wanted to know who represented you, you should have found out. And perhaps the Greyhound people saw their reps with greater frequency because their workplace had more problems than yours. Just because you didn't see the union at your installation didn't mean they weren't doing their job.
There are good unions and bad unions. I was given lots of opportunities to work with the union because I showed an interest. That's it. I went to meetings and they were like, "Whoa! A young person who's interested. Let's grab her!!!" People like you are part of the problem. The union is nothing without collective action.
The whole issue is that Janus didn't want to be apart of the Union and never wanted to join it at all. But he was still forced to pay the money every single paycheck into the union for that money to be spent on politicians that he didn't agree with.
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