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Old 10-29-2018, 07:24 AM
 
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So i work for a fast food location in Georgia and was off 2 days in a row. Well up on coming back there were deposits in the safe that had not been dropped off at the bank. So i counted deposits and sent them to bank by another manager. The bank called a few days later saying the bags were not there but they had the young lady on camera coming into the bank. young lady even wrote out a statement saying that i gave her the bags to take to bank. Well now my supervisor keeps coming at me as if i took the bags. Remind you there is no where on camera showing that i took not one bag out the store. And the manger who took the bags says the the supervisor told her to say that she didnt look in the bag when i gave it to her. NOw i feel like im being made the fall guy because he keep texted me telling me he would call police if i didnt tell him something.And my reply was i didnt have anything to tell because i didnt know anhything my self.
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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...there were deposits in the safe that had not been dropped off at the bank.
How many different forms and reporting processes does the franchise operator manual describe
and require filling out and calling about when that sort of screw up happens?

zip.... the soap opera recap.

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NOw i feel like im being made the fall guy...
You are.
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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There is nothing on this issue to my knowledge this has never happen to me before. And i have been with this comapany since 2013. Policy states that any manger can take deposit bags to the bank there is no one manager who has to take them. He claims that they have watched camera and nothing was found but still telling me im on suspension/ and tekking other fellow store managers and shift managers that im terminated
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Who just hands money to someone else without something to establish chain of custody... a witness, a receipt, something!

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The bank called a few days later saying the bags were not there but they had the young lady on camera coming into the bank. young lady even wrote out a statement saying that i gave her the bags to take to bank.
Right there... "She accepted the bags from me and didn't take them to the bank. Why are you wasting your time asking me? You have to ask her what she did with them." Simply make it 100% clear that they already have their answer. Don't accept any "Well", "But", "Maybe"...she took the bags.

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NOw i feel like im being made the fall guy because he keep texted me telling me he would call police if i didnt tell him something.
Tell him, "Go ahead! In fact, I insist. Here, I'll call for you. They'll be very interested in talking to her and you after they see that she accepted the bags and didn't then take them to the bank." When they fire you, you'll have a heck of a lawsuit.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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The OP is probably an at-will employee, so he can be fired for wearing the wrong colored socks. There is almost certainly no law suit here.

It certainly sounds like you are being made the fall guy.

File a complaint with the franchise owner and corporate HQ and see if you get a response. The owner may not have the complete story. Does the supervisor have a relationship with the woman who took the money bags?

Are you actually on suspension?

Consult a labor atty.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:57 PM
 
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yes hes been telling my fellow managers im terminated but told me im suspended. And i have been out of work since last friday. He keeps texting me saying hes still looking into the matter but remind you i have text saying that he did watch the camera and he found no wrong. Yet i also found out he told this same manger if she stated that she didnt look at the bags that she could return to work. He just keeps changing the story up and i just really need to get back to work. I have worked for these people for 5 years and have never taken one red cent. Im the only manager he had out of 5 stores the even ran great numbers.and i was in line to take his position before this
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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Go to corporate and the store owner. Tell the supervisor that you have been constructively terminated without cause and that you are filing for unemployment.
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Where are the receipts for the bank deposits?? I used to work for a bank, so I did my share of processing night drop deposits or business deposits brought in by managers. EVERY TIME a receipt was always generated for every single deposit and handed back to whoever either brought in the deposit and stood there while I counted it, or whoever came in to pick up the night drop deposit bags (each bag had a receipt slip inside).

Also, check the statement(s) for the bank accounts where the deposits are going. The bank should be able to tell you when those deposits were made.

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Old 11-01-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Where are the receipts for the bank deposits?? I used to work for a bank, so I did my share of processing night drop deposits or business deposits brought in by managers. EVERY TIME a receipt was always generated for every single deposit and handed back to whoever either brought in the depist and stood there while I counted it, or whoever came in to pick up the night drop deposit bags (each bag had a receipt slip inside).

Also, check the statement(s) for the bank accounts where the deposits are going.
I worked commercial/vault for retail banks back in my early days. "Night drop" means just that, dropping a key-locked bag into a secure vault. The vault is opened by two authorized persons and like old drop-off deposits by regular customers, kept under "double custody" (sometimes triple) until counted and verified. Such unverified deposits are never, ever, ever under the control of a single person, not even an officer or management-level.

If this second manager simply walked in and handed the bags to someone and walked out, there is absolutely no record of the drop or the deposits. It's between the manager saying she did hand them over, and a bank employee accepting the bags without following protocol. The deposits should have been processed at a window with the manager still present, or dropped in the night drop for proper later handling.

Either the manager faked the drop or the bank employee copped the bags. All assuming the OP's tale is complete and correct.

If there were any checks in the deposits (a likely no, these days) they can be followed up to see if they were run through the system, meaning the bank did get and process them. If checks etc. never show up, the bags were stolen (or lost).
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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I worked commercial/vault for retail banks back in my early days. "Night drop" means just that, dropping a key-locked bag into a secure vault. The vault is opened by two authorized persons and like old drop-off deposits by regular customers, kept under "double custody" (sometimes triple) until counted and verified. Such unverified deposits are never, ever, ever under the control of a single person, not even an officer or management-level.

If this second manager simply walked in and handed the bags to someone and walked out, there is absolutely no record of the drop or the deposits. It's between the manager saying she did hand them over, and a bank employee accepting the bags without following protocol. The deposits should have been processed at a window with the manager still present, or dropped in the night drop for proper later handling.

Either the manager faked the drop or the bank employee copped the bags. All assuming the OP's tale is complete and correct.

If there were any checks in the deposits (a likely no, these days) they can be followed up to see if they were run through the system, meaning the bank did get and process them. If checks etc. never show up, the bags were stolen (or lost).
We used to do the night drop deposits first thing in the morning before the bank opened up. Every receipt had identifying numbers on it so you could tell which bank branch and which teller counted and processed the deposit, as well as the time of day when the receipt was printed. We simply split all the bags between the tellers.

I can't imagine someone being so stupid as to hand over a deposit bag to a teller and walk out. You stand there and wait for them to count it out and give you a receipt. We had a McDonald's franchise that used to bring their deposits to us, and they would stand there the entire time, no matter how many separate deposits they had, and we had to count every single strap of money before printing a receipt for each separate deposit. I never used the bill counter machine, I always counted everything by hand, but when you knew how many bills made up a single and double strap of each denomination that sped things up quite a bit.
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