Need Some Quick Advice...what would you do??? (employment, interview, degree)
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I had an interview today with company "A" for a dream job that I really want and it went great. They are making a decision in the next two weeks. I feel like I have a good shot at the position (they actually have two spots open, so double my chances!). Also, it's close to my house (10 minute drive), and I met a bunch of people there who are really cool. Of course, no guarantee that I will get this position...
Just now I got a phone call with an offer from company "B". I just interviewed with them on Monday. It's not a place that I see myself long-term, but hey it's a job. They are going to give me a $5,000 bonus in December if I accept the offer. Problem is I have to give them an answer tomorrow morning! Of course, I would be stupid to turn it down, but I kinda want to see how the other one pans out first.
To complicate it further, the offer is coming through an employment agency and not direct. (They are getting the bonus offer in writing.) I didn't tell them I have something else pending, because it's not like I have an offer from company "A".
Both jobs pay the same yearly salary, with the exception of the bonus from company "B".
Been there, done that! Bird in hand is better than two in the bush! Accept B. If company A comes through, there is nothing stopping you from dropping B. Of course, you will be burning bridges with the recruiter, as well as the company, and giving up $5K. However, for me, $5K is not worth continuing to do a job which from the beginning you don't foresee yourself liking long-term. You've already made your mind up about that before you even begin, so your motivation level is not quite as high as the job you really like. My experience has taught me that the culture is more important than money, to a certain degree, and if you like your boss and the people you work with, you will be more motivated to excel. Best of luck to you.
Yes, I am definitely considering taking the offer. I would not usually feel bad about skipping out, but in the interview for company B, he really stressed wanting someone with loyalty and who would make a long term commitment. oops.
The company is small, only 6 people and it seemed really quiet and boring. I do better in environments where there is a lot going on, phone calls, people stopping by, and me generally doing 35 things at once. So, I pretty much know going in that's it's not going to be a good fit for me and that I will be moving on in a year or less.
But times are tough and I've been out of work for a while now and I don't have any other interviews at the moment, unless job A pans out. But seeing that I just interviewed today, it's too soon to tell.
UPDATE: So today I tell the employment agency that I will take the offer. I have one stipulation. I'm turning 30 on August 1st and my husband surprised me with a trip to Vegas Aug 4-8. So I don't want to start on Monday, work four days and then take the whole next week off. I told them my start date would be August 11th when I get back from my trip. That way, I can be fully focused on the job at hand.
So the agency freaks out. They are totally twisting my arm, they want me to just start on Monday and they've got 2 people calling me and trying to talk me into it. They refuse to go to the company and even ask the question if it's okay for me to start in two weeks instead of starting on Monday.
My thing is, #1 most candidates would have to give two weeks notice if they were employed, so this can't be that unusual of a request.
#2 the worst the company can do is say no. The agency is telling me that I'm going to lose the job. But in negotiating, they usually either agree or not. They don't EVER come back and say, well, the whole deal is off because you tried to negotiate.
People, I tell you that you cannot trust an employment agency to negotiate a deal for you. They simply don't have your interests at heart.
UPDATE: So today I tell the employment agency that I will take the offer. I have one stipulation. I'm turning 30 on August 1st and my husband surprised me with a trip to Vegas Aug 4-8. So I don't want to start on Monday, work four days and then take the whole next week off. I told them my start date would be August 11th when I get back from my trip. That way, I can be fully focused on the job at hand.
So the agency freaks out. They are totally twisting my arm, they want me to just start on Monday and they've got 2 people calling me and trying to talk me into it. They refuse to go to the company and even ask the question if it's okay for me to start in two weeks instead of starting on Monday.
My thing is, #1 most candidates would have to give two weeks notice if they were employed, so this can't be that unusual of a request.
#2 the worst the company can do is say no. The agency is telling me that I'm going to lose the job. But in negotiating, they usually either agree or not. They don't EVER come back and say, well, the whole deal is off because you tried to negotiate.
People, I tell you that you cannot trust an employment agency to negotiate a deal for you. They simply don't have your interests at heart.
Temporary/employment agencies are a joke. They don't care about people. All they need is a body to fill a position the second they get it. Any other time they are lying saying they have positions when they don't just to justify their own jobs.
People, I tell you that you cannot trust an employment agency to negotiate a deal for you. They simply don't have your interests at heart.
Wise advice - legitimate recruiters do not work for the candidate, they work for the employer. The employer pays the recruiters fee. It is the candidates job to negotiate, the recruiter follows the leads and opens the door.
Insist they present the request to the prospective employer. If the prospective employer refuses well, you wouldn't want to work there anyway. Obviously family life is NOT a priority!
UPDATE: The agency did not present my request. Instead, they found someone else, sent her over to interview and closed the deal with that person this afternoon. My agency contact called me a few minutes past five to let me know that the position was filled by someone that just popped up last minute. Ha! I wouldn't play ball so they found someone else.
Turns out, the company was considering another candidate not represented by the agency. They were afraid if they tried to negotiate anything for me, he would pass and choose his person, and they would make zero commission.
You simply cannot negotiate when you work through an agency. I would suggest to anyone in this situation to do any negotiating during the interview! You will never have another opportunity later in the process.
The agency is not your friend, so beware. I didn't want the job badly enough, so I am not upset. But it was a HUGE waste of my valuable time.
UPDATE: The agency did not present my request. Instead, they found someone else, sent her over to interview and closed the deal with that person this afternoon. My agency contact called me a few minutes past five to let me know that the position was filled by someone that just popped up last minute. Ha! I wouldn't play ball so they found someone else.
Turns out, the company was considering another candidate not represented by the agency. They were afraid if they tried to negotiate anything for me, he would pass and choose his person, and they would make zero commission.
You simply cannot negotiate when you work through an agency. I would suggest to anyone in this situation to do any negotiating during the interview! You will never have another opportunity later in the process.
The agency is not your friend, so beware. I didn't want the job badly enough, so I am not upset. But it was a HUGE waste of my valuable time.
Your experience is very true. But I say things happen for a reason so you never know, the other company may come through after all. I wish you best of luck with that. Also, had your hubby not planned that trip, you would have not seen the agency's true colors, you see? Things do happen for a reason!
Oh Sunny! What a raw deal you got! I know you really didn't want that job, but the shenanigan and shady dealings done behind your back was outrageous.
Well, go and enjoy your vacation, then! Would you be able to hear from Company A if they called? I didn't check your OP, but did you prepare to get a call while you're away? Perhaps this is the perfect opportunity to find out where you stand? If you called them and let them know that you will be away and that you want to provide them an alternate number to call (assuming that's what you want to do), it's a good segue to a follow-up on status, yes?
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