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Old 01-21-2010, 06:46 AM
 
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I was speaking to someone today I know as a vague acquaintance. I won't put in any details but she's around 60 and had what is a good 'service job' but was recently let go.

I'm not sure why. Could be office politics. Could be someone else knows someone younger for the job.

She's has no hard skills to fall back on (mainly done service work/c.s. work). The job she had was giving her training and benefits which she needs being 'partly disabled.'

Now she has 'nothing.' And here it is so hard to find anything over a service (retail/food service) job and that means minimum wage and standing for hours if you can get that. (who can live on this IF you do get this type job?)

She needs a sit down job but will not be able to get one in a million years IMO.

I feel so bad for her. It's hard enough to be 40 something and out of work. But 60 something with 'no training' in any desk skills whatsoever.

Sometimes the world is very screwed up.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I was speaking to someone today I know as a vague acquaintance. I won't put in any details but she's around 60 and had what is a good 'service job' but was recently let go.

I'm not sure why. Could be office politics. Could be someone else knows someone younger for the job.

She's has no hard skills to fall back on (mainly done service work/c.s. work). The job she had was giving her training and benefits which she needs being 'partly disabled.'

Now she has 'nothing.' And here it is so hard to find anything over a service (retail/food service) job and that means minimum wage and standing for hours if you can get that. (who can live on this IF you do get this type job?)

She needs a sit down job but will not be able to get one in a million years IMO.

I feel so bad for her. It's hard enough to be 40 something and out of work. But 60 something with 'no training' in any desk skills whatsoever.

Sometimes the world is very screwed up.
The world isn't screwed up. The world is an economic machine. She had training opportunities, right? She saved her money for retirement, right? She lives within her means, right? She has the opportunity to relocate for other employment opportunities and/or lower cost of living, right?
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:51 AM
 
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Unfortunately Charles, the situation is not that easy. She has family responsibilities here and can't just take off and leave. How about a little compassion?
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Unfortunately Charles, the situation is not that easy. She has family responsibilities here and can't just take off and leave. How about a little compassion?
We're here to help on this Employment forum.

Not trying to be unkind, but I think people get into an inflexible mindset "I can't...".

Why can't she just leave? Isn't she 60? She still has kids under 18 to take care of? People relocate all the time. It's an adventure. (I don't know her personal situation so sure, there may be extreme situation which would make relocating worse than being unemployed and on welfare.)

Relocating doesn't necessarily mean selling the house. It could mean moving somewhere temporarily, renting a room, and drawing a paycheck until something can be found in the home town.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:11 AM
 
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It's a case of elderly and sickly parents, sadly.

Also, she is frightened of moving (she is single) anywhere there might be jobs like a big city because she's a small town woman and only knows 'this type life.'

So, I think she's in for a long stint of unemployment. I'm trying to get out of here myself in the next few months because even with skills, there are few jobs here. I don't want to be 60 something some day and still be longing for 'a job in McDonald's' as my best chance at employment.

Thank you for your comments. I just found the conversation with this lady yet another reason why rural living is not for me.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:21 AM
 
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Do you have any call centers up in your neck of the world?
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:28 AM
 
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The world isn't screwed up. The world is an economic machine. She had training opportunities, right? She saved her money for retirement, right? She lives within her means, right? She has the opportunity to relocate for other employment opportunities and/or lower cost of living, right?
A "partly disabled" 60 year old woman loses her job and this is your reply?

Alot of women who are 60 years old didn't go to college. They took care of their families and believed that they would be married until death do us part.

Yep, at 60, she should sell her house (if she has one) and move somewhere to look for a low paying retail job. Great idea.

I have no idea how old you are but what if this was your own mother or grandmother in this situation???

YOU are a perfect example of what's wrong with our capitalist society.

What's wrong with you?

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Old 01-21-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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What's wrong with you?
In a true capitalistic society, people would be rewarded for their hard work, dedication, and integrity. Unfortunately, these days, they are simply exploited.

Folks who support capitalism need to realize that this is not the perfect little Ayn Rand world that we'd like it to be.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:53 AM
 
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At the age of 60 she can withdraw from her IRA and/or 401K to survive until she can collect SS. Doesn't have one? Shame on her! Had she started an IRA 35 years ago and contributed only $20 a week, she would now have over $100K, even based on a very conservative investment strategy with no risk. (Bonds, money markets, etc.)

Frankly I have a hard time having sympathy for people who don't take classes to improve their careers or who don't save for their future. While I have empathy for the woman, I have zero sympathy--she really created her own problems by not taking any responsibility towards planning for her future.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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In a true capitalistic society, people would be rewarded for their hard work, dedication, and integrity. Unfortunately, these days, they are simply exploited.

Folks who support capitalism need to realize that this is not the perfect little Ayn Rand world that we'd like it to be.
I can't rep you again but consider yourself repped!
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