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Yeah, I agree and that is a perfect brief summary that is related to the entire debate about the associations of Spiritual vs. Religious that was said earlier in this topic.
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Last I checked France had one of the highest atheism rates in the world. They have a strong philosophical tradition. Doubt they should be included in the "both spiritual and religious" category
2. Verificationism: An epistemological belief which asserts that: "Any question regarding the supernatural is meaningless". [This is a self-referentially incoherent philosophy that collapsed in the 1960s, now considered to be "dead" among its foremost proponents, yet which is prominent among epistemologically-untrained mainstream scientists, such as PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins].
Metaphysics is dead, and it died much earlier than the '60s. I've yet to see a coherent definition of "god", and I can state with absolute certainty that I never will see one.
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Metaphysics is dead, and it died much earlier than the '60s. I've yet to see a coherent definition of "god", and I can state with absolute certainty that I never will see one.
According to Verificationism, your own statement (bolded above) is itself meaningless. There's a good reason why Verificationism is considered a dead philosophy and no reputable philosopher alive would now dare to defend it.
I suggest you read up on what Verificationism actually is, and thus what denying Verificationism entails. You also need to understand what "incoherency" actually means in philosophy. The concept you're probably (erroneously) alluding to is actually "non-cognitivism" or "anti-realism".
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The most un-spiritual or religious country is Sweden and other nordic countries like Finland and Norway come next. After the other nordic countries I belive that other European countries like France would follow up. I don't belive that USA is un-spiritual at all, I think that the people there are muuch more religious compared with us Europeans.
As in Finland un-spirituialism has gone to the extent of not allowing plays of for example the birth of Jesus in christmas celebrations in schools. Songs and stories relegious related for example songs from the bible are not allowed either (in schools). To go to the church is a very rare thing, they're mostly visited on weddings and funerals.
That stuff isn't allowed in most US schools either. Even the school where I went, which was in a Bible Belt town
That stuff isn't allowed in most US schools either. Even the school where I went, which was in a Bible Belt town
How about public open air performances and celebrations in the USA? A good example of this would be the "Passion of the Christ" play that's performed annually on Easter Weekend at Trafalgar Square in London.
How about public open air performances and celebrations in the USA? A good example of this would be the "Passion of the Christ" play that's performed annually on Easter Weekend at Trafalgar Square in London.
I haven't seen anything like that in LA, SF, NYC, Seattle, or Boston - the major cities I've lived in. Thank god (no pun).
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