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Old 05-16-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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You think if I go there I'll actually find out that the outback is a lush tropical paradise? Don't be ridiculous, the satellite images speak for themselves.
But if you ever did, you'd find than even driving the short distance between places like Alice Springs and Uluru takes you through quite diverse scenery and vegetation. But then, you may not notice...

 
Old 05-16-2017, 05:43 AM
 
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But if you ever did, you'd find than even driving the short distance between places like Alice Springs and Uluru takes you through quite diverse scenery and vegetation. But then, you may not notice...
You could say the same about the USA, you're using anecdotal arguments to try and counter empirical evidence. Never a good debating technique.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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You could say the same about the USA, you're using anecdotal arguments to try and counter empirical evidence. Never a good debating technique.
Anecdotal? If you ever go there you can take all the photos you want.., . Not sure what your getting at regarding the US. Are you saying there's a lack of similar diversity in the US?
 
Old 05-16-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Anecdotal? If you ever go there you can take all the photos you want.., . Not sure what your getting at regarding the US. Are you saying there's a lack of similar diversity in the US?
I'm saying that the US has a wider variety of climates and landscapes, which is true.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Most of Australia is an arid dustbowl, there really isn't much to see in the centre except different varieties of dryness.
I wouldn't say that it's uninteresting. Coming from a lush forested place all my life, it was pretty cool to go up from Adelaide to Coober Pedy, Alice Springs and Mount Isa. Kind of like being on another planet.


And then to see the vegetation very slowly return to a familiar density as we moved towards the Queensland coast.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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The coldest places in Tasmania in the mountains average highs of +4-5C and lows of 0 to -1C in the winter.


The lowest temperature ever in Tasmania is -13C. Almost the entire northern tier of the U.S. would get as cold or colder in average winter, with the only exceptions being places like Seattle right on the west coast.


Even so, Seattle's record low is -18C or 0F.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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I wouldn't say that it's uninteresting. Coming from a lush forested place all my life, it was pretty cool to go up from Adelaide to Coober Pedy, Alice Springs and Mount Isa. Kind of like being on another planet.


And then to see the vegetation very slowly return to a familiar density as we moved towards the Queensland coast.
Places in the US have a similar effect. Desert slowly transitioning into vegetation. During the winter you can even have desert transitioning into snow, very uncommon in Australia.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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Also, Australia has less variety in the climates it does have. For example, Australia has BSK climates in inland South Australia and on the border between Victoria and NSW. This is the same climate technically as Denver, Colorado.


But in Australia these climates have highs from 5-7C and lows of -1 to -3C in the winter. They only sporadically see snow and some years get none at all.


Denver's record low is around -30. It only has three months of the year where it doesn't average snow. (Even my location has five months with no average snow at all, so more than Denver.)


In Denver it can be 20C one day in the winter, and a few days later you're way below freezing and buried in snow. Rinse and repeat. These are not freak occurrences either. It can happen in most years in fact.

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Old 05-16-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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The coldest places in Tasmania in the mountains average highs of +4-5C and lows of 0 to -1C in the winter.


The lowest temperature ever in Tasmania is -13C. Almost the entire northern tier of the U.S. would get as cold or colder in average winter, with the only exceptions being places like Seattle right on the west coast.


Even so, Seattle's record low is -18C or 0F.
Australia has absolutely nothing that can appeal to cold lovers, the only way to experience reliable cold there is to climb a high mountain.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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Australia has absolutely nothing that can appeal to cold lovers, the only way to experience reliable cold there is to climb a high mountain.
I have to say I've always been impressed by their efforts to have a decent winter sports scene, in spite of the challenges with snow cover that isn't always reliable even in the higher elevations.
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