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History repeating itself again...
In Moscow on February 27, 2015, a lone gunman killed Boris Nemtsov, a former deputy prime minister and a powerful and charismatic opposition leader who stood as an alternative to Vladimir Putin.
In Leningrad on December 1, 1934, a lone gunman killed Sergey Kirov, a powerful Bolshevik who stood as an alternative to Josef Stalin.
1. A Russian act.
2. A CIA act made to look like a Russian act.
3. A Russian act made to look like a CIA act.
(Unlikely a random killing based on the footage).
Unless they've considered all three possibilities, I won't take any opinion on this matter seriously (or those who draw oblique parallels between Putin and Stalin), bearing in mind that the "west" has a clear vested interest in destabilizing Russia's internal politics.
Agreed. I'm not particularly pro-Russia but it's very unlikely someone as shrewd as Putin would resort to something so in your face provocative. Someone is deliberately trying to stir up internal unrest in russia
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Originally Posted by Yousseff
bearing in mind that the "west" has a clear vested interest in destabilizing Russia's internal politics.
I think we're all aware of the parallels. Putin is obviously a modern-day equivalent to Stalin.
That's a stretch. Killing a few dozen of your political opponents and suppressing democratic opposition while horrible, is rather common authoritarian leaders to do. Sending hundreds of thousands to death in gulags and political show trials is another level of horror. To even compare the two plays down the brutality of Stalinism. Unless I missed something, we also don't know who killed him. It seems obvious that it was connected to Putin's government, but there's no solid proof.
Agreed. I'm not particularly pro-Russia but it's very unlikely someone as shrewd as Putin would resort to something so in your face provocative. Someone is deliberately trying to stir up internal unrest in russia
Why not? His position is currently secure and he'd know it would be too hard to make it stick without a reasonable doubt. If he felt Nemtsov had something up his sleeve that could be a real threat to him, one greater then his death might be, why not take him out? Putin has the resources within Russia and the motive, maybe the CIA had one too but Occam's razor, Putin had a better motive, more resources with which to carry this out in Russia, and if the CIA really wanted to stir up trouble they'd kill less high value people then the sort of leadership that might actually be able to replace Putin. No, I don't buy the foreign intervention card, I think this is exactly what it looks like it is.
Why not? His position is currently secure and he'd know it would be too hard to make it stick without a reasonable doubt. If he felt Nemtsov had something up his sleeve that could be a real threat to him, one greater then his death might be, why not take him out? Putin has the resources within Russia and the motive, maybe the CIA had one too but Occam's razor, Putin had a better motive, more resources with which to carry this out in Russia, and if the CIA really wanted to stir up trouble they'd kill less high value people then the sort of leadership that might actually be able to replace Putin. No, I don't buy the foreign intervention card, I think this is exactly what it looks like it is.
I'd be cautious about applying any explanatory simplicity principle to geopolitical events in which aggressive disinformation is a factor.
Last edited by MarineBlue; 03-01-2015 at 05:16 PM..
I don't think Putin has to do with this. He didn't have enough interest to kill Nemtsov, he was a polical oppositor, but he sisn't represent a threat to Putin. If he had to kill him, i don't think it'd have happened now that the relationship with the West is at an all-time low and in a place as central as the Red Square, the news would have also been more covert by the Russian medias
It's amazing how many of Putin's detractors are murdered don't you think? Nemtsov says that he will produce evidence that Russian troops were fighting in the Ukraine proving Putin lied, and he is promptly assassinated. Who benefits from Nemtsov's death, why Putin of course who else.
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