culture clash USA vs Europe (middle school, to live, doctorate)

[viribusunitis]

Originally Posted by Acajack

This thread got me thinking: how do students refer to their teachers were you live?

In elementary school it was either "Frau Lehrerin" (Mrs. teacher?) or "Frau XXX". In high school we just used "Herr/Frau Professor". At university it's either "Herr/Frau Professor XXX" (in case the teacher is a proper professor) or "Herr/Frau Doktor/Magister XXX" (in case he is only an assistant professor; Doktor = PhD, Magister = Master's degree).

First names? Definitely not used in school or at university.

[Ariete]

Originally Posted by Acajack

This thread got me thinking: how do students refer to their teachers were you live?

Acajack Lacroix: Ariete, you're late again, what is your excuse?
Ariete Arieteson: Sorry man, I missed my bus
Acajack Lacroix: You bike to school, I know that
Ariete Arieteson: Yeah, ok. No reason.
Acajack Lacroix: Sit down... So who won WWI?
Ariete Arieteson: o/
Acajack Lacroix: Yes, Ariete?
Ariete Arieteson: The Triple Entente
Acajack Lacroix: That's correct
Matti Meikäläinen: Hey yo, Acajack, I really have to go to the bathroom!
Acajack Lacroix: Go ahead.
*Door knocks*
Principal Skinner: Sorry, the comms didn't work, but let's assembly after the lesson at the yard, I have some news. And BTW, Ariete, you had a paper that was due yesterday.
Ariete Arieteson: yo, I'm on it. I'll have it to you tomorrow
Principal Skinner: Well, you better have to!
Acajack Lacroix: Hey, hey, hey! What the f**k are you Matias doing back there?
Matias Huligani: What the f**k did I do? I... uhm dropped my pencil...
Acajack Lacroix: Get you seat! NOW!

Something like this...

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Ariete

Acajack Lacroix: Ariete, you're late again, what is your excuse?
Ariete Arieteson: Sorry man, I missed my bus
Acajack Lacroix: You bike to school, I know that
Ariete Arieteson: Yeah, ok. No reason.
Acajack Lacroix: Sit down... So who won WWI?
Ariete Arieteson: o/
Acajack Lacroix: Yes, Ariete?
Ariete Arieteson: The Triple Entente
Acajack Lacroix: That's correct
Matti Meikäläinen: Hey yo, Acajack, I really have to go to the bathroom!
Acajack Lacroix: Go ahead.
*Door knocks*
Principal Skinner: Sorry, the comms didn't work, but let's assembly after the lesson at the yard, I have some news. And BTW, Ariete, you had a paper that was due yesterday.
Ariete Arieteson: yo, I'm on it. I'll have it to you tomorrow
Principal Skinner: Well, you better have to!
Acajack Lacroix: Hey, hey, hey! What the f**k are you Matias doing back there?
Matias Huligani: What the f**k did I do? I... uhm dropped my pencil...
Acajack Lacroix: Get you seat! NOW!

Something like this...

Ha ha ha! Very funny!

[saibot]

^^ Sounds like a delightfully cultured higher learning experience.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by viribusunitis

In elementary school it was either "Frau Lehrerin" (Mrs. teacher?) .

This sounds like the equivalent of "Monsieur le professeur" in France. I don't think the language works that way in English.

To me, "Monsieur le professeur" is something they'd say in France.

Sort of like when they say "Monsieur le directeur" in a business meeting.

We don't really do that over here, and generally use the person's name instead: "Monsieur Dupont" (or Lacroix if Ariete prefers...)

Unless we are writing a formal letter.

Although now that I think about it in politics here they do say "Monsieur le maire", "Monsieur le ministre", "Monsieur le premier ministre"...

[KathrynAragon]

Students here of all ages generally say "Mr or Mrs Smith" or "Professor Smith."

And most students and teachers don't curse in their interactions with each other. I mean, they may do so under their breath but they're not likely to say, "Hey, man! How the **** are you doing today? What the **** did you eat for lunch? Where the **** are you going after class? How 'bout those ****ing Patriots!!!!!"

[Ariete]

Originally Posted by saibot

^^ Sounds like a delightfully cultured higher learning experience.

It was high school.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by saibot

^^ Sounds like a delightfully cultured higher learning experience.

And yet, as far as I know Finland consistently ranks at or near the top of international rankings for the world's best school system.

School officials and the media over here keep beating it into our heads that our school system should be more like Finland's!

[Acajack]

On Finnish schools, for those who can read French. It took me about 0.01 seconds to find this on Google. We see articles like this fairly regularly in our media.

Éducation : la Finlande première de classe ! - L'actualité

[Ariete]

Originally Posted by Acajack

And yet, as far as I know Finland consistently ranks at or near the top of international rankings for the world's best school system.

School officials and the media over here keep beating it into our heads that our school system should be more like Finland's!

We were hooligans and we made teachers cry. But we learned. And eventually, we became civilised persons.