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Old 05-03-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Harm?

Look at this actual road sign in Scotland.

Glaschu 10
Glasgow 10

Glaschu is an older spelling of the city most know as Glasgow.

Now the driver is distracted from the road for the sake of an ancient language very few speak.

French harms entire countries. In Canada, the French speaking province keeps asking for independance and bans shops from displaying English names. Meanwhile, they demand all Canadians learn French even in remote provinces at great expense.

Spanish also can harm with demands that all forms be in two languages. Now entire forests have to be cut down to generate extra pages because Spanish speakers in the US refuse to learn English.

The Philippines is a big country where every official speaks English, every government document is in English, every University class is in English. So why keep Tagalog? It just holds the country back since English speakers are paid more.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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In Ireland (not here) all the road signs are in Irish but no one speaks Irish or even knows what the words mean. Another waste of money to promote nationalisitic views.

If I was ever to govern their country the first thing i'd do would be to tear all those signs straight down!
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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I don't see why French Canadians should give up their language, their heritage and their culture just for the irrational fear and paranoia of Anglophone speakers.
In Milan I heard some tourists complain that people didn't speak English expecting everyone to speak it; we aren't a single homogeneous English-speaking world and we'll never be, thanks God.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Maybe not but since they are in North America they should speak English aswell.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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Maybe not but since they are in North America they should speak English aswell.
Nonsense.
French Quebec is older than any English-speaking part of Canada and they have always gone along fine with their own language.
If you want to interact with French speakers you learn French, otherwise don't bother.
Learning a language can't be forced upon anyone, if they need learning English, they will, otherwise live and let live.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Tbh, I won't learn French because they are the arrogant ones and I refuse to give in. The French are the only country in the world to use their language in Air traffic control.

They never bother to learn English while every other country does. It is their own problem, they are going to be the isolated ones, not me.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Tbh, I won't learn French because they are the arrogant ones and I refuse to give in. The French are the only country in the world to use their language in Air traffic control.

They never bother to learn English while every other country does. It is their own problem, they are going to be the isolated ones, not me.
Oh, the irony.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Maybe not but since they are in North America they should speak English aswell.
Mexico, too?

Since the Germans are in Europe, should they speak French aswell?

By the way, for what it's worth, I can't see where anybody is "harmed" by being multilingual and knowing how to speak and read and write several languages. Nor that the schools are inflicting any "harm" on their students by offering second-language studies. You may have a point that signage serves no useful purpose, but it is pretty subjective for a person who refuses to learn a second language to consider those who have done so to be damaged goods.

I know plenty of English-speaking Canadian whose only knowledge of French is expressions like "right turn prohibited" or "slippery when wet", so at least, the signs have taught them something that even their public schools have failed to impart.

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Old 05-03-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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Tbh, I won't learn French because they are the arrogant ones and I refuse to give in. The French are the only country in the world to use their language in Air traffic control.

They never bother to learn English while every other country does. It is their own problem, they are going to be the isolated ones, not me.
You have reason.
How dare they speak their language!
How dare they take care of their language and culture! How arrogant and xenophobic!
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Old 05-03-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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Tbh, I won't learn French because they are the arrogant ones and I refuse to give in. The French are the only country in the world to use their language in Air traffic control.

They never bother to learn English while every other country does. It is their own problem, they are going to be the isolated ones, not me.
Are you talking about yourself in third person?
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