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Old 02-18-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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It is true this phenomenon of some american men running away USA of junk food as in a message says the forista Rosa Surf because is already apparent among american tourists in Spain.
The Gastronomicamente American tourists in Spain are of 3 classes.
1)Those who are addicted to food junk and although they go to other countries they the seek .

These american junk food chains have branches in big cities of Europe and is full in tourists americans men
they do not Know that are lost you the magnificent mediterranean food .

2)Tourists Americans that fled junk food and looking they desperately as crazy in Madrid some vegetarian restaurants and breathe a sigh of relief when they find although there are few almost only for tourists.
They do not realize that healthy food need to also fish and meat and that the food vegetarian is incomplete according to all specialists in nutrition.

They also lose thing in Spain as the exquisite and very healthy food as the famous Iberian Ham of pig race,That there he is defined as Olive tree with legs.
Also the most very varied fish that capture the Spanish fleet of fishing the largest in World like Japan through seas worldwide Exquisitely cooked with old recipes of age century -,


3)The american tourists explorer who want to see everything and eat everything when they ago a visiting a new country

I identify completely with this american tourist.
You really don't seem to have a clue about the people or diet of the US, or what constitutes healthy food. Anyone who thinks ham is healthy or that meat is a necessary part of one's diet, really doesn't know anything about nutrition.
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:57 AM
 
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The iberian pig fed on acorns has nothing to do with other pig breeds.

Its meat is up 55% of oleic acid .Your cholesterol is the good and is defined as an olive tree with legs

The they Spanish nutritionist consider it very good for the heart and is an integral part of the Mediterranean diet that has made the spanish with the japanese have the highest life expectancy in the world .
The woman 86 years and men 83 years according World Health Organization.

And in Spain not there is nothing of morbid obesity that is so prevalent in USA is given.

The only problem is that Iberian ham is expensive .It is a shame because !!that tasty!! is wonderful !!
For fortunately for the spaniards still do not know what they are missing en other countries like USA,-Although that the chinese have tried unsuccessfully copy this Iberian ham.
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:46 AM
 
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You mean lower income kids before had access to healthy food, somehow? Are you trying to say people before could purchase high quality food for cheap? Come the f*ck on. We just ate gachamiga which is slighly more nourishing than a mouthfull of dirt. I'd say a frozen pizza is a better alternative.

In Spain, if you look for healthy and high quality food, you're going to find it too.
If you don't like franchises, you have a central market where you can purchase fresh food. There are also weekend street markets where they sell vegetables and fruit. If I ever want delicious strawberries, that's where I'll go to buy them. Small grocery shops are also easy to find and they have good products.



Boy howdy. Here's some healthy cheap food.
https://www.tripadvisor.es/Restauran...n_Country.html


You also have very high quality food in the US, they invented the "whole food"..even the "mediterranean diet", etc. All food fads come from there. They also have local food, which tend to be expensive. They also have produce markets, and Kilometro Cero (they invented that).... They are our future.....People with education and more money eat healthy food, poor people eat crap.

The US is a country of contrasts, you have the worst food and the best food.

Before, food in Spain was very traditional. I remember when there were no pizza places or chinese places some 30 something years ago....families did the cooking. There were more extended families, the grandmother (the great culinary treasure that is dying) did the cooking. There were more family gathering, comuniones, bodas y bautizos that were extended....etc, etc.

All local food restaurant and "cocina del mercado" restaurants are on the way out in large cities and towns. For example, ask any restaurant in Alicante, the ones serving the typical arroz a banda fare, etc, about taxes, employment costs, alcohol and wine taxes, municipal taxes...and they will tell you that they had to hike prices and cut on quality.

Those quaint rural restaurants in which you could eat local food are now either broke (drunk driving laws, taxes, regulation, monetary union) or very expensive.

Some poster said that in the US they have a bastardised version of international cuisine.....just like here. But here is worse, because there's no excuse with the large variety in Spanish gastronomy.

The worse enemy are children, in a figurative sense, they don't like Spanish food, except in a few well informed families they are fed "macarrones", pizza, croquetas congeladas, industrialised food..and they are getting fat, very fat. The difference in weight between the kids in private and semi-private schools and public schools is quite high.

The crisis, the food in public schools..they try to do their best, but kids now only want to eat crap.

The worse thing now is the "blight" of rural Spain, no pensiones, bodegones, figones that were very cheap....the VAT and greedy townhalls did the killing. Now there are only expensive restaurants that cater to sunday drivers, expensive hotels, etc. Cheaper to travel to Thailand that travel through rural Spain.

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Old 02-19-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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There is abundant healthy and delicious food in most countries of the world. There is also unhealthy junk food in just about every country. Americans get a bad reputation for an unhealthy diet, and for some it's true. Just like anywhere else. We are a gigantic country full of immigrants. We have some of the best food in the world and some of the worst. What we do have is abundance, and with abundance comes contrast.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:50 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I think the main problems of modern obesity is more to do with portion sizes than anything else.
Very true. There is TOO MUCH food available in the U.S. People eat way more than what is necessary - even for healthy foods.

That and the lack of regular exercise is why people become overweight so easily.
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Old 02-19-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Default over generalizing

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From some of the posts, it is obvious that knowledge about food and eating habits of USA citizens is limited. The United States is a very large country and what might be true in a small area in one place is nothing like that somewhere else in the same country. Some of the notions are so wrong, it's funny. I've traveled a lot in France, Italy and other countries and eaten in many restaurants. I wouldn't dream of thinking I know enough to say what their food is like, who eats it or what their social status is.
In another thread England Dan bashed (among other things) food in the U.S.A.

The first thing that came to mind was to ask him if he had ever had a Thanksgiving dinner.

There was no response to my question. Maybe he had never heard of Thanksgiving?
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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The turkey seems a food with little flavor.

In Spain there are people who improve the turkey with some injections about 1 liter Brandy or Coñac,-

Ja ja ja
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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You also have very high quality food in the US, they invented the "whole food"..even the "mediterranean diet", etc. All food fads come from there. They also have local food, which tend to be expensive. They also have produce markets, and Kilometro Cero (they invented that).... They are our future.....People with education and more money eat healthy food, poor people eat crap.

The US is a country of contrasts, you have the worst food and the best food.

Before, food in Spain was very traditional. I remember when there were no pizza places or chinese places some 30 something years ago....families did the cooking. There were more extended families, the grandmother (the great culinary treasure that is dying) did the cooking. There were more family gathering, comuniones, bodas y bautizos that were extended....etc, etc.

All local food restaurant and "cocina del mercado" restaurants are on the way out in large cities and towns. For example, ask any restaurant in Alicante, the ones serving the typical arroz a banda fare, etc, about taxes, employment costs, alcohol and wine taxes, municipal taxes...and they will tell you that they had to hike prices and cut on quality.

Those quaint rural restaurants in which you could eat local food are now either broke (drunk driving laws, taxes, regulation, monetary union) or very expensive.

Some poster said that in the US they have a bastardised version of international cuisine.....just like here. But here is worse, because there's no excuse with the large variety in Spanish gastronomy.

The worse enemy are children, in a figurative sense, they don't like Spanish food, except in a few well informed families they are fed "macarrones", pizza, croquetas congeladas, industrialised food..and they are getting fat, very fat. The difference in weight between the kids in private and semi-private schools and public schools is quite high.

The crisis, the food in public schools..they try to do their best, but kids now only want to eat crap.

The worse thing now is the "blight" of rural Spain, no pensiones, bodegones, figones that were very cheap....the VAT and greedy townhalls did the killing. Now there are only expensive restaurants that cater to sunday drivers, expensive hotels, etc. Cheaper to travel to Thailand that travel through rural Spain.
There's high quality food in the USA of course, otherwise the whole Zero Kilometer movement wouldn't have started, they wouldn't have had farmers market in the same way we do, chains such as Whole Foods and Trader Joes wouldn't have existed and so on. Heck, even the benefits of mediterranean cuisine were recognised by a USA citizen!

However, i'm surprised by the way you describe the situation in Spain, you can easily get a more than decent four course meal at €15 in most spots of rural Italy as well as finding fresh produce at the local market (even when there aren't markets, ambulant vendors are common).

I think there's a problem even here though, the root of this problem comes from both parents often being employed and not having enough time to cook a proper meal and deciding to cook already prepared low quality meals instead.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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The turkey seems a food with little flavor.

In Spain there are people who improve the turkey with some injections about 1 liter Brandy or Coñac,-

Ja ja ja
But Spanish food is so bland????? I felt like everything needed more flavor.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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Very true. There is TOO MUCH food available in the U.S. People eat way more than what is necessary - even for healthy foods.

That and the lack of regular exercise is why people become overweight so easily.
Yeah this is one of the main problems- I think also a lack of interest in cooking. But it seems like this is happening everywhere, in many countries. Hectic lifestyles and the convenience of easily prepared foods make it difficult to keep up a healthy lifestyle.
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