Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
London is MUCH less dense than "Madrid, Barcelona and Paris". Not even close. London is NOT an apartment city, at all, in contrast those other cities are almost nothing but apartments, all the way out to the suburban fringe.
Comparing London to Paris/Madrid/Barcelona is like comparing Philly to NYC. You're comparing a rowhouse city to an apartment city.
And Berlin isn't dense, at all. It's probably one of the least dense major European cities, along with London.
I've been to Barcelona, Edinburgh, Madrid and Istanbul and general indications are London doesn't do badly in the density department even within Europe. It certainly does a good job against NYC overall.
That's not how you do metro areas. I don't even think those numbers are correct anyways, but it's irrelevant.
You don't compare relative metro areas by taking equivalent land areas and then comparing population, because population and density patterns vary widely.
If you do what you're doing, then why don't you use any other relative size, where there's a huge difference in population? At 100 miles, 300 miles, 600 miles, 1000 miles, etc. there is a massive difference. You're just cherry picking one size and then saying this is the comparison you choose to use, even though it has no relevance to metro area definitions in either London or NYC.
You have to narrow it down somehow so at some point you have to take equivalent areas and start drilling down from there.. This is my whole point... we should be comparing urbanized areas and not inflated and ballooned masses with poor levels of density and urbanity or large swaths of a city with green areas so I actually agree with you but yes you do have to start with something right? So use this objectivity in the face of London. Something is going on in terms of density and size of the city if it is fitting in almost the same number of people in an equivalent area as NYC. It may not be as contiguously built up but it has good density and urbanity to be able to put in the number of people it does into the area it does, especially considering its green space.
The Western Hemisphere is the dominate hemisphere.
Europe, USA, Canada and Brazil are all in the Western Hemisphere.
Lumping in Africa with the M.E, Eastern Europe, Asia and Australia/NZ is kind of an odd unison vs Western Europe and the Americas.. I just can't seem to connect this comparison at all lol... Even within Asia there is such diversity of approach to governance, religion, politics and economy that comparisons within that sphere is problematic.
What do you mean by apartments, high-rises? If so, than those cities are more like a few stories than the say 10, 15, 20, 30 storey apartment blocks. These are mostly found in council estates in London and poorer parts of Paris. The whole condo thing hasn't caught on in Europe as much.
The difference is outer NYC has a lot of detached houses, whereas even outer London is more attached townhouses as well as high-rises.
I think this is why you get the numbers London posts in terms of density and urbanity. It isn't as bloated and built up as NYC and it certainly doesn't have the clusters of hyper density of NYC either but it seems to have large swaths of urbanized density to post the numbers it does. Particularly when taking its green areas into account.
Last edited by nei; 05-18-2014 at 01:09 PM..
Reason: fixed quote
The dominant hemisphere on earth? I don't think so.
This is the Eastern Hemisphere. It includes an overwhelming majority of the world's land mass, population, GDP/economy, cultural, historical influence. The Eastern Hemisphere absolutely dwarfs the western in global importance (even with the US). The western hemisphere is basically just westernmost Europe, far western Africa and the Americas. The Eastern Hemisphere is most of the world (including most of Europe).
I don't have a dutch proxy. I'll try to see of one comes up later.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
