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Minority groups are the most successful in America, Indians leading the group followed by Chinese, Japanese and others ethnic groups of Asians, way ahead of WASPs. How's that racism working there, not so good I guess?
The Chinese, Indians etc. you mentioned are mostly recent immigrants. Typically they had college degree before coming to the US, and work in IT, biotech etc.
They are good students produced by China and India. Their parents in China and India contribute to their success, not America.
The Chinese, Indians etc. you mentioned are mostly recent immigrants. Typically they had college degree before coming to the US, and work in IT, biotech etc.
The old Chinatown people are not rich at all.
So you accept there is no systematic racism per say because people of non-white Anglo-Saxon ethnicity have risen to the tops. Kinda seems like the system is based on meritocracy, oh shock!
Now as a WASP somewhere in China, how far would you get with meritocracy alone? Hint, you'd encounter a racial barrier (far sooner if you were black and another non-white ethnicity) way before you would somewhere in the US or Northern-America in fact.
So you accept there is no systematic racism per say because people of non-white Anglo-Saxon ethnicity have risen to the tops. Kinda seems like the system is based on meritocracy, oh shock!
Now as a WASP somewhere in China, how far would you get with meritocracy alone? Hint, you'd encounter a racial barrier (far sooner if you were black and another non-white ethnicity) way before you would somewhere in the US or Northern-America in fact.
Oh they still face racism. Other things being equal, an American/European engineer is more likely to be hired than a Chinese.
Not to mention promotion and salary.
China does not have so many white people for historical reasons. China does not welcome permanent immigrants because it has to force its own citizens to have birth control. However, I know it is extremely easy for a white person to find a job in China, if he has proper visa (off topic).
In America, most minority groups have light years higher poverty rates than WASPs. That sums all.
Couple points (of many):
First, that's a straw man argument.
Second, America is one Western country.
Third, even within America, the nuances and intricacies of income and race are very deep and complex. So, no, it doesn't just sum it up. if you want to start another thread just on this topic within the context of American society then go right ahead.
Fourth, your knee-jerk and emotive response lacks any substantive evidence. On the contrary, real facts and data point to the conclusions that Western countries, by and large, are much less discriminatory than the rest of the world, especially Asian and African countries.
Third, even within America, the nuances and intricacies of income and race are very deep and complex. So, no, it doesn't just sum it up. if you want to start another thread just on this topic within the context of American society then go right ahead.
Fourth, your knee-jerk and emotive response lacks any substantive evidence. On the contrary, real facts and data point to the conclusions that Western countries, by and large, are much less discriminatory than the rest of the world, especially Asian and African countries.
Thanks though.
The Mongols used to control a large part of Eurasia, and thus controlled different races.
However, there was no institutional racism in the Mongol Empire. Yes, they made more Mongols to be government officials etc., but no law said people of certain race is inferior by nature.
Now compare that to the British Empire, or even the US before the 1960s.
The Mongols used to control a large part of Eurasia, and thus controlled different races.
However, there was no institutional racism in the Mongol Empire. Yes, they made more Mongols to be government officials etc., but no law said people of certain race is inferior by nature.
Now compare that to the British Empire, or even the US before the 1960s.
Again irrelevant and nothing to do with the present day. You have no concrete argument for the modern times based on facts. You're just sprouting off random pieces of information trying to present them like you have a point or a case. You don't.
Oh they still face racism. Other things being equal, an American/European engineer is more likely to be hired than a Chinese.
Not to mention promotion and salary.
China does not have so many white people for historical reasons. China does not welcome permanent immigrants because it has to force its own citizens to have birth control. However, I know it is extremely easy for a white person to find a job in China, if he has proper visa (off topic).
Who faces racism where? Are you aware that Chinese companies can only hire westerners (mostly WASPs) for positions the Chinese can't supply themselves? Like teaching English and other 'white monkey' positions that are to 'up-sell' the position of that company? It kinda seems you are making up excuses for the racism expressed by China as a whole, it's not gonna fly with me.
You can say the US is racist but at the same time, you have to acknowledge almost every single country in the world (especially China) is actually way more racist than the US. You can make it in the US, based on merit alone; you can't do the same in China.
That's coming from a European and not an American.
Again irrelevant and nothing to do with the present day. You have no concrete argument for the modern times based on facts. You're just sprouting off random pieces of information trying to present them like you have a point or a case. You don't.
But thanks again for trying, love.
If you think about it, it suggests western culture has a long tradition of racism, compared to some other cultures. Saying "everyone is racist" does not save you.
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