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Old 03-04-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Look people, nothing is going to happen to other countries if the United States imposes tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

This will simply encourage more steel and aluminum production in the United States, thereby lowering the cost of metallic goods for Americans. It's all about supply side economics.

Other than that, life will go on as usual.
If Trump can impose sanctions on a whim, he can undo them on a whim...so what makes you think that someone will invest a billion dollars in building a new steel mill when he might remove the sanctions before they finish building it?
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Trump is going to wreck the entire American economy to get the votes a a few million poor Whites in the Rust Belt and rural areas who think they should live like kings despite being uneducated and refusing to move. There are lots of blue collar jobs out there but you have be willing to move to where they are and pass a drug test.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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trump knows that even the usa doesnt gain a whole lot economically , others will suffer , europe has no real economic independence of its own despite its size , its extremely reliant on whats happening in america , whenever wall st sells off hard , as sure as night following day , the european stock markets sh1t themselves the following morning , i dont just mean major crashes , i mean every single time the market is down

what trump is up to will probably play well with his base and is a smart move

ive never for a second thought he is a stupid man , he is vulgar , arrogant and rude but anything but stupid
How do you justify pulling out of the Paris accords?
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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There are lots of blue collar jobs out there but you have be willing to move to where they are and pass a drug test.
Why is that a problem? What if you had to read and write, and pass a sobriety test, and show up on time for the interview, and look neat and tidy?
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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That depends on how you look at it. On a domestic level, it was a loss as it enabled North Vietnam to conquer the South. If you look at it from a global perspective, it was quite a success as it marked the point at which communism stopped expanding.
The pain and suffering imposed on citizens of the US, South Vietnam, North Vietnam, and surrounding countries was not worth it. Trust me on this one... I know I was there.
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:18 AM
 
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How do you justify pulling out of the Paris accords?
most americans dont give a sh1t about the enviroment and most republicans view it as a big government scam , he had nothing to loose politically by withdrawing

personally i think you would need to be a moron not to believe in climate change , im forty and the amount of rain that falls these days compared to even twenty years ago is staggering where i live , we have flood warnings about a dozen times each year , that happened every twenty years in the past
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:10 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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most americans dont give a sh1t about the enviroment and most republicans view it as a big government scam , he had nothing to loose politically by withdrawing
To be honest, I doubt that most people in the world really give a sh*t about the environment.

Nobody is willing to dramatically reduce their energy consumption, give up their cars or abandon their materialistic lifestyle (if they have these things). Everybody just wants to live comfortably, and they only get concerned if their immediate surroundings are threatened in any way.

If people really cared about the environment, then they would go back to living the way the world did 250 years ago. But that's never going to happen, certainly not voluntarily.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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People seem to forget that exports are a Cost of Imports. If a country could extract some precious 'unobtainium' that everyone else in the world couldn't do without, and whose extraction involved only a few hundred of its citizens, and exchange this stuff for all its imports then in this fantasy world that country would be one lucky country.
That country is actually the USA today.

The US has got a pretty sweet deal right now in that it is today the recipient of hundreds of billion$$ of real stuff which foreigners toil to make and ship to its shores, in exchange for which those foreigners get a lousy US dollar balance in a New York money centre bank (which probably costs a few million to effect). Of course, the foreigners use that to buy fuel and other US dollar denominated things that they want...but the US over all gets a heck of a lot in the bargain. Tampering with such a sweeet deal wouldn't be the wisest course of action, I'd say. That said, the Feds should help the labourers displaced by imports....unfortunately, such an approach is considered 'socialism' in the U S of eh, eh ? The US uses the military to mop up this surplus labour at present but maybe some other industries could be fostered and nurtured that would help those folks out ?
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Earth
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not with trump in charge.

If he focused on china, then yes. But he's going after the world
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:20 AM
 
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That depends on how you look at it. On a domestic level, it was a loss as it enabled North Vietnam to conquer the South. If you look at it from a global perspective, it was quite a success as it marked the point at which communism stopped expanding.
You think communism stopped expanding because of the Vietnam War?

Better go back to the books, amigo.
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