Europe vs. America , EU vs. USA. (taxation, price, tuition)
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Unfortunately,in Europe most publications are antiam,because the left wing parties practice socialism & the right wing ones try to...reform socialism. No party advocates USA style capitalism,e.g tuition funded post secondary education,lower taxes etc...
You have to take in account the difference between the Euro and the $ in your reasonning. All the figures are old and not accurate since now 1 € = 1.60 $ it means most of (not all) the countries in the eurozone have got a bigger GDP per capita now.
Unfortunately,in Europe most publications are antiam,because the left wing parties practice socialism & the right wing ones try to...reform socialism. No party advocates USA style capitalism,e.g tuition funded post secondary education,lower taxes etc...
First what you say about our newspaper is Moderator cut: no insults false and second it doesn't matter in Europe if your taxes are lower or not. Actually our way of life is based on our solidarity through our taxes. As for the secondary education, it's very hard to know if it is very valuable (worthy) since the most of the time the quality of a school or an university are based on the american degree.
For example, France is very well know to make among the best IT engineer in the world but no school is better ranked than your MIT .... I have to say it's very funny. What it is true for France is also true for a lot of country such Germany (there is no ONE school ranked ! ! We are talking about Germany here the 3rd powerful nation in the world) or India or China.... It's very surprising to see the school always ranked are American, British and Australian the most of the time.
Last edited by Cornerguy1; 05-12-2008 at 09:13 PM..
Unfortunately,in Europe most publications are antiam,because the left wing parties practice socialism & the right wing ones try to...reform socialism. No party advocates USA style capitalism,e.g tuition funded post secondary education,lower taxes etc...
1/ One time I was in Arizona, we were at a gas station. Suddenly two personnel people came out with guns. Now, that you don't see much in Europe. So I jumped flat on my stomach, and if I didn't had the luck to have an edition of The Economist with me, they might have thought I was the barbarian who didn't pay after filling up the car. So I like the Economist.
2/ Post secondary education is not free in the Netherlands. You pay afterwards during 15 years. They're long. And you have to pay money to the education institute. That is tuition-based, isn't it? (I don't know how it's abroad though)
4/ Now after the Cold War what did the USA and the EU do? Let's try the American Council for Capital Formation. Here's their graph on taxes:
http://www.accf.org/images/TaxChart.jpg (broken link)
Source: http://www.accf.org/images/TaxChart.jpg (broken link)
So what about more taxes, and no tuition fees, and no capitalist agenda in the EU? The difference is: we don't call it capitalism, we call it 'adjustments'. You read about that in your newspaper?
It means u have the socialist perversion that taxes express ...solidarity.
Solidarity express a way to do, the way to make in common , to share the ressources, any kind of ressources, money is one them.
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To me,taxes are the invention of socialists & communists to build their para-state & para-economy,the public or government sector of the economy.
First socialism and communsim are two different things. As for Fire fighter, police and the army in America, they are all concerned by what you call socialism....
Second, what I say is simple, you pay taxes to give to the poorest people, it's obvious civil servant are useful to make the job, but it doesn't mean that the gvt can make whatever he wants with them. Just look at France, the civil servants are always on strike fighting the gvt. It has nothing to do with a para-state.
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Be my guest as u pay ...150% gas tax,expressing your...solidarity.
Again, the way how we see our way of life is really different in Europe. Everybody needs the gvt at least once in his life. Take healthcare for example, in Europe, they are socialized medecine (most of the time) and when you have a cancer for example the gvt pay you everything. It is called solidarity since the others pay for you whereas you are not able to work nor to pay (do you know the price for a chemo ? even in US is overpriced)
The price of the gas is not important, we use it to move our car, and that's it. In Us this energy is very important more important than in Europe. The price of gas in Europe is not really an issue.
I'm not advocating socialized medecine, and certainly not a socialist economy (far from it) but sometimes it can help you, some situations are very hard to manage, and in the US it's the same.
Free market solutions for health care,assistance to the poor,& so on are much better in quality than government aid & they would be even better if the socialists did not taint these businesses with high taxation.
I did not know that in Holland u pay tuition for university studies. I thought it was a taxpayer funded system.
It seems to be a European past-time to make comparisons with the US, with a transparent zeal to come out favorably. Almost like a younger brother who is constantly measuring up to see if they have finally overtaken the older brother in height. I don't see a similar preoccupation on the side of the American public. Oh well, it can probably be explained by the fact that they are not as cultured, educated, sophisticated, etc.
It seems to be a European past-time to make comparisons with the US, with a transparent zeal to come out favorably.
Actually, this thread has been made by Futexan.... an american.
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Almost like a younger brother who is constantly measuring up to see if they have finally overtaken the older brother in height. I don't see a similar preoccupation on the side of the American public. Oh well, it can probably be explained by the fact that they are not as cultured, educated, sophisticated, etc.
Sandy
Since your remark wasn't make in the right direction and since it was good when aimed to the european people it has to be good too when it's about american people ? right ?
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